Re: NOTICE of Payment under Protest SCSCAI HOA DUES

 SCSCAI--Mediocre to an Efficient Cost effective Community

 Highland Falls PROJECT

Sue, a peace of advice, when you have a hair trigger always have your target in the cross-hairs, otherwise you'll shoot your foot off. Attached are two of my many notes on this project that will set the record straight.

Now where do you get the audacity to bring my wife into your bogus accusations. An apology is in order.  

Sue: If you have a problem, it should be addressed with me and with me only. -- I have countless documents that have tried this approach, you probably don't really want to go there.

Sue: I can not get any men to work behind your house as they were so verbally abused. -- The w/o's that I have asked for would prove this to be FALSE.

Sue: I am sorry this happened, so now I must have in writing what you want done behind your house and it must be signed by both you and your wife, before we will consider doing anything further on Highland Fall Golf Course behind your home. -- All that has been expected from SCSCAI is normal maintenance defined in the governing documents. We have been promised weed and overgrowth maintenance to be performed on Highland Falls Golf course bordering three

properties at 2624 High Range.

P

honed in W/O have been ignored,
normally projects of this kind would be the responsibility of Sun City
not the homeowner.

This conversation is a perfect example of why the 

financial

losses are so great. Not a professionally run organization. We can agree on that.

Dwain Kramzar

(702) 582-8064

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM, susan papilion <spapilion@cox.net> wrote:

I am sorry you are upset about so many things, but it is obvious that you care.  We can agree to disagree if you feel there is a problem over financial reporting and planning, however I do wish to talk to you about Highland Falls.

I met with you last summer and we came to an agreement as to what you wanted done behind your home and we did start on the project, when one day the men were chased away by your wife and told they were wrong and go away!  So they left and have not come back again.  It is not up to you or your wife to yell at employees.  If you have a problem, it should be addressed with me and with me only.  I can not get any men to work behind your house as they were so verbally abused.

I am sorry this happened, so now I must have in writing what you want done behind your house and it must be signed by both you and your wife, before we will consider doing anything further on Highland Fall Golf Course behind your home.

Sue Papilion

On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Dwain Kramzar <dkramzar@gmail.com> wrote:

Sun City Summerlin Community Association, Inc.
Board of Directors,
David Steinman-President
9107 Del Webb Blvd.
Las Vegas, NV 89134

Ms. Sue Papillion Executive Director/manager,

Due to the failure of this HOA to provide the provisions defined in the Sun City Summerlin governing documents all further HOA Dues are paid under Protest.


The Association's purpose is, with reasonable governance and rules, to provide for the care and maintenance of the facilities in a cost effective manner, and to create an atmosphere which encourages new and old residents to maintain the active lifestyle they have sought by moving to the community.

FOR THE RECORD

Failure to provide Cost effective manner:

• Failure of Board & Management to provide Independent Internal Audit over Financial Reporting
• February 2015 LINK Summary of Operations is misleading as to the financial condition of SCSCAI. {go to link}
• Refusal of Board to implement a Business Plan/P&L for our cash business.
• Violating Fiduciary Duties: BoD's proposal & approval of Membership Dues to fund mismanaged business ventures at a yearly cost of $500 to each member.
• BoD's selection of unqualified personnel to manage $65 million associations assets.
• co-mingled for-profit ventures & membership unaudited Assets & Liabilities on Balance Sheet. 
• Misuse of membership Yearly Dues to Fund Golf & Business Losses

Failure to provide for the care and Maintenance:

• EXAMPLE: Highland Falls G.C. Maintenance Project/4th fairway perimeter
• Four Years & still not completed
• Hundreds of Sun City residents have had the same experience with SCSCAI Management.

Summary:
My seventeen years experience as a retired resident-homeowner in Sun City Summerlin has witnessed many changes in the vision and lifestyle stated in original governing documents. This is due to the Sun City leadership's Pledge of Allegiance and an oath of loyalty to the HOA, not the membership they serve.

Buying a retirement home in this HOA is the worst single mistake I have made.




Dwain Kramzar
2624 High Range Dr.
Las Vegas, NV 89134
703.582.8064

cc: SCS Board Directors

NOTICE of Payment under Protest SCSCAI HOA DUES

Sun City Summerlin Community Association, Inc.
Board of Directors,
David Steinman-President
9107 Del Webb Blvd.
Las Vegas, NV 89134

Ms. Sue Papillion Executive Director/manager,

Due to the failure of this HOA to provide the provisions defined in the Sun City Summerlin governing documents all further HOA Dues are paid under Protest.


The Association's purpose is, with reasonable governance and rules, to provide for the care and maintenance of the facilities in a cost effective manner, and to create an atmosphere which encourages new and old residents to maintain the active lifestyle they have sought by moving to the community.

FOR THE RECORD

Failure to provide Cost effective manner:

• Failure of Board & Management to provide Independent Internal Audit over Financial Reporting
• February 2015 LINK Summary of Operations is misleading as to the financial condition of SCSCAI. {go to link}
• Refusal of Board to implement a Business Plan/P&L for our cash business.
• Violating Fiduciary Duties: BoD's proposal & approval of Membership Dues to fund mismanaged business ventures at a yearly cost of $500 to each member.
• BoD's selection of unqualified personnel to manage $65 million associations assets.
• co-mingled for-profit ventures & membership unaudited Assets & Liabilities on Balance Sheet. 
• Misuse of membership Yearly Dues to Fund Golf & Business Losses

Failure to provide for the care and Maintenance:

• EXAMPLE: Highland Falls G.C. Maintenance Project/4th fairway perimeter
• Four Years & still not completed
• Hundreds of Sun City residents have had the same experience with SCSCAI Management.

Summary:
My seventeen years experience as a retired resident-homeowner in Sun City Summerlin has witnessed many changes in the vision and lifestyle stated in original governing documents. This is due to the Sun City leadership's Pledge of Allegiance and an oath of loyalty to the HOA, not the membership they serve.

Buying a retirement home in this HOA is the worst single mistake I have made.




Dwain Kramzar
2624 High Range Dr.
Las Vegas, NV 89134
703.582.8064

cc: SCS Board Directors

LINK Magazine, (misleading report to the Membership)

David Steinman, President SCSCAI Board of Directors,

Sun City Summerlin Board of Directors

January 6, 2015 the President & Board was made aware of a report in the January 2015 LINK article titled,, "From the Executive Director", was incorrect and misleading to our community,,, The Executive Director alludes that SCSCAI is financially sound. Not true.

LINK Magazine, (misleading report to the Membership)

Febuary 2015 LINK Summary of Operations is misleading as to the financial condition of SCSCAI.

(unaudited) October 2014 Balance Sheet

SCSCAI has a very complicated financial structure because it consolidates the balance sheets of the membership funds (Dues) with for profit cash business (golf/restaurants) therefore, co-mingling assets, liabilities and ownership and not providing the accountability of Generally Accepted Auditing Standards, or GAAS to the SCSCAI membership.

True Cost of Volunteer Management (free Management)  

January 6, 2015 SCSCAI Board meeting it was established that Sun City Summerlin is a self managed community by nine volunteer Board of Directors. (only Management qualifications needed is membership)

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President Steinman stated "It is a big responsibility to govern

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a business that amounts to a small city".

​--Feb 2015 Link.

Govern - Merriam-Webster Online

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to officially control and lead (a group of people)

Summary of SCSCAI Cash Business ​ ​ ​P&L​ ​

• Loss per month, 4 months  (628,469.25)
  Annual Loss  (3,886,317.00)
• 7780 Unit Owners Share of Losses ​  (499.53) 

​LACK of ​ACCOUNTABILITY:

$65 million in Assets managed by Volunteers without Background Checks,Trust Me

How can Volunteers be held accountable for co-mingled members funds?

co-mingled unaudited Assets & Liabilities on Balance Sheet.

Refusal of Board to implement a Business Plan/P&L

​ for our cash business.​

Losses approaching $4 million per year

​Dwain Kramzar

(702) 582-8064

		Summary of SCSCAI Cash Business P & L
		Figures from 2015 Link Magazine
		Current Month			Fiscal Year To Date
				July 2014 - October 2014
Revenues		Actual			Actual
Golf Course		327,361.00			1,047,756.00
Restaurants		41,164.00			170,682.00
	Subtotal	368,525.00			1,218,438.00
Expenses
Golf Golf Pro  CoursShops		109,646.00			443,922.00
Golf Course Maintenance		395,081.00			1,800,312.00
Restaurants		48,068.00			269,643.00
	Subtotal	552,795.00			2,513,877.00
	Total P&L	(184,270.00)			(1,295,439.00)

Investment Club - Sun City Summerlin article in the Review Journal Newspaper about their NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

Ms. Darcy Spears,

​Chanel 13​

Darcy, my name is Dwain Kramzar and I am a seventeen year member of the Sun City Summerlin HOA. You and I previously met a few years ago at a Nevada Real Estate Division meeting. My neighbors and I are requesting your investigative reporting skills for an unbiased observation of our community.

This February we are having an election of four of nine Board of Directors in the SCSCAI HOA. The Board of Directors are elected to represent the membership with reasonable governance and rules, to provide for the care and maintenance of the facilities in a cost effective manner, and to create an atmosphere which encourages new and old residents to maintain the active lifestyle they have sought by moving to the community. SCSCAI members are being denied these fundamentals outlined in our governing documents.

Summary of problems:

• Freedom of Speech denied Membership  
• Appointment of Board President to $120,000 Executive Director position without qualifications required (below- Letters to the Review Journal Summerlin Editor, Jan. 15-21, 2015)

• Control of information in the LINK magazine that publish incorrect and misleading information to our community,,, when informed was met by the BoD's-"CODE OF SILENCE" as USUAL!
• Board & Executive Director fail to maintain Cost in an Effective Manner: - $2 million + Business LOSSES due to the mismanagement, co-mingling of Membership dues & Business LOSSES. Lack of COMPETENT MANAGEMENT is the major contributor to the Millions in yearly LOSSES to this community,,,, these LOSSES amount to RESORT FEES that are embedded in the memberships dues.   
• $15 million Budget without Audit, Business Plan or Accountability

​Thanks f​or any assistance you can provide our community,

​​

​

Dwain Kramzar 

(702) 582-8064

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From: SCommander <sdcommand@centurylink.net>
Date: Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:32 AM
Subject: Investment Club - Sun City Summerlin article in the Review Journal Newspaper about their NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
To:

Investment Club members

A main concern of the Investment Club is the education of its members on how to protect and increase their Finances. With that said, I previously sent you an email about how the Sun City Summerlin BOD is using $120,000 of Our Dues Money on the new Executive Director. I followed up on that via an email to the Review Journal Newspaper. The following is what they published in their VIEW Section.

Steve Commander, President Investment Club

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Letters to the Review Journal Summerlin Editor, Jan. 15-21, 2015

RESIDENT OBJECTS TO NEW BOARD DIRECTOR. The Sun City Summerlin board has had several executive directors over the past few years. Each time the Board apparently goes through an exhausted search for the right person. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the situation with our latest executive director. The new director was initially elected to the board, which nearly everyone knows is a popularity contest rather than based on experience. This new member subsequently became the president of the board. The experienced executive director recently departed and the board voted for the board president to become the new executive director without searching for an experienced person. This new executive director does not appear to have any experience for the job and is being paid $120,000 annually from our dues money. The board was questioned multiple times about the experience, ability and salary of the new executive director and the board refused to respond. To properly and correctly resolve this situation, I strongly suggest the Ombudsman, City Council and Mayor's office thoroughly investigate this situation and determine if there any possible corruption, collusion or the like occurring in Sun City Summerlin and openly advise Sun City residents of their findings ASAP.

— Steve Commander, Las Vegas

Re: [SCBuzz] Re: [SC-SCOOP] Re: [SCSLSC] Re: WATER WASTE-SUB ASSOCIATIONS

Don, 

I fully support your position regarding the CC&R's.  

I like you live on Highland Falls G.C. and am well aware of the LOSSES due to Golf & F & B. These LOSSES are a direct result the past Board of Directors refusal to implement a Business Plan/P&L  and the co-mingling of membership dues with business expenses. If these issues are not addressed these business will continue in the same direction.  

It would not make any sense for the Board to contemplate any closures. Whats the probability of success when you consider their past track record?

​Dwain Kramzar

(702) 582-8064

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM, DON drgtrustpl@cox.net [SCBuzz] <SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Bruce,
As a Director I would certainly want a lot of answers before I voted for anything.  I agree with everything you said and like you I am willing to cover the loss but I do live on a golf course.  Personally I wish they would close it because of the great advantages that would come to every resident and absolutely no harm to the golfers.  I hope the Board takes the necessary steps to get answers for you but when I was a Director they refused to even talk about it.

Most of the people who live on a golf course could probably care less if they ever saw a golfer again.  They payed for the view and that will never change.  Most pay for golf damage and that would change.
Don

On 8/20/2014 1:41 PM, seawolf1963@aol.com [SCBuzz] wrote:

 

Don

Again I appreciate your answer.

For the record I do not agree that we should cut our losses by closing a golf course unless and until I can be shown that:

1 - Closing a golf course will actually save a significant amount.

2 - That there is a plan in place as to what to do with the closed golf course area.

3 - That I am convinced that the probable issues and law suits will be worth the trouble.

I do think that a vast majority of owners realize that a portion of our annual assessment goes toward golf. I also have been told by numerous members that they do not want a golf course to be closed. Further that the ambiance provided is worth the extra money. I am neither a golfer nor do I live on a golf course however I personally am willing to pay the extra today for the golf ambiance. You may disagree and certainly that could change over the years as the golf expenses increase and/or play decreases.

Bruce Alitt

In a message dated 8/20/2014 12:29:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com writes:

 

Bruce, that article is to protect the Board but should not be interpreted as requiring a vote to prevent the Board.  I know you are not an attorney but common sense should tell you that if you are losing money on golf and food the Board is required by the CC&Rs to stop without voter approval.  I just put a message on the chat line explaining all of that.  Since you seem to agree that we should cut our loses by closing a golf course if necessary I see no need for any more discussion between us on this issue.

I am not a fan of the way the Board and Administration operate and it is my opinion they have knowingly operated improperly ever since Del Webb left the Board.  They once brought an action against me and when I wanted to defend they dropped the complaint and the state said I could not continue.  That would never have happened in a court of law.  The Board is welcome to file a complaint against me anytime.  At least that would show which Directors understand what being a Fiduciary means.

None of these messages will change anything and I for one would hope the chat lines close if its members are not willing to get involved.  Our losses are only about 1/3 more than they should be and at $107 per month per house most of us can absorb the loss.  The fact remains that no matter what the loss and I expect it to go continually higher the Board has no right to budget for it.
Don Gilman, Esq. 

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Re: SUN CITY SUMMERLIN BUDGET

Steve, I appreciate your frustration with SCSCAI leadership and would like to add my comments to Mr. Crawford and the Board relating to millions of dollars in LOSSES. 

• Crawford: As I stated in my other post, the losses have been ongoing for many years.  Please ask the previous Boards , not me, why was nothing done previously. [many home-owners including myself have pointed out the need of a Business Plan only to be ignored. Ref. Link Business Plan Request ]
  

• Crawford: I'm  trying and I think succeeding, at least on the restaurant front to cut the losses. And what is the Board doing, I said in my other post, how can you be ignorant of the actions takes to cut the restaurant losses? [look at the Board's past actions and track record. Ref. Link SCSCAI Restaurant Track Record ]

Summary:

 My sixteen years experience as a retired resident-homeowner in Sun City Summerlin has witnessed many changes in the vision and lifestyle stated in original governing documents. This is due to the Sun City leadership's Pledge of Allegiance, an oath of loyalty to the HOA, not the membership they serve.

Buying a retirement home in this HOA is the worst single mistake I have made.

Dwain Kramzar

2624 High Range Dr.

Las Vegas, NV 89134

703.582.8064     

DAK

(702) 582-8064

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 6:30 AM, SCommander <sdcommand@centurylink.net> wrote:

Leo

The following was received by me, along with other Sun City residents, from a Allan Frank. My comments to your statements in Black are in RED. This email is also being sent to over 300 Sun City residents who I hope send it to other residents.

Steve Commander
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

From: <lecrawford@cox.net>

Subject: Re: SUN CITY SUMMERLIN BUDGET

Date: May 29, 2014 at 5:22:31 PM PDT

To: Allan Frank <allangfrank@gmail.com>

Since you sent a second note I will send a second reply.

I resent your "... is allowing such a large loss". YOU SENT??? Isn't there a "large loss"? As I stated in my other post, the losses have been ongoing for many years.  Please ask the previous Boards , not me, why was nothing done previously. YOU sound like Obama. The 2013 "previous board" had YOU as President. The 2012 "previous board" had YOU as a Board member. Therefore, YOU are the previous Boards. That is probably why Mr. Frank asked you. It is unfortunate that the Sun City BOD elections, like so many others, is a popularity contest rather than one that elects truly highly qualified persons.  Why no email for Mr Akers/  Ask him, not me.I don't run his life. As President in 2012 why didn't you have Mr. Akers place his email address in the LINK? It is still NOT in the LINK. Maybe the current BOD President will rectify that situation. And again, I ask, what have you done to solve the problems of golf and restaurants? What Mr. Frank has done, along with other Sun City residents, is to elect a group of people who wanted to be on the BOD supposedly to resolve the many situations that exist in Sun City rather than just 'enjoy the power' associated with the position. That is what Mr. Frank has done. The real question is what have you and the other BOD members done?  I'm  trying and I think succeeding, at least on the restaurant front to cut the losses. And what is the Board doing, I said in my other post, how can you be ignorant of the actions takes to cut the restaurant losses?  You and BOD Bruce Alitt, in prior emails to me, INSIST on degrading residents YOU WORK FOR, yes you work for us because the residents elected you. Calling Mr. Allan "ignorant" probably proves you fit in that category. Your responses also confirms what I previously stated to Patty Rosia, our Executive Director, that 99.9999% of Sun City residents DO NOT attend BOD meetings because they are DISGUSTED with the attitude of the BOD who believe "We the people..." work for them rather than the other way around. Have a good day.

Amazing. Yes it is

---- Allan Frank <allangfrank@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sun City Board Of Directors Members,

My wife and I are doing our best to enjoy the "Golden Years" and are concerned at what appears to be a very large, TWO AND A HALF MILLION LOSS as reported in the budget. We want to know why the BOD is allowing such a large loss? Do you intend to just pass this on to all the residents of Sun City? Is there a plan I am not aware of which has someone other than the residents to pay this money? Why are the Golf Course and the Food and Beverage operations allowed to continue on  losing money? Is this the way you exercise your Fiduciary Responsibilities? A $316 hit might not be of concern to the BOD but it is to me.

I assume Jim Akers has no email for a valid reason in this day and age?

PLEASE ADVISE WHAT ACTIONS ARE TO BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION!

Very concerned residents,

Allan & Bernice Frank
10649 Clarion ln   
Las Vegas, NV 89134  - 5230
(702) 570-1110



Quote from the budget follows.

"SUN CITY SUMMERLIN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION INC. FY 2025 BUDGET

REFERENCE:  SUN CITY SUMMERLIN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION INC. FY 2025 BUDGET
                        APPROVED BY THE BOARD & SUBJECT TO RATIFICATION AT THE JUNE
                        24, 2014 MEETING OF THE UNIT OWNERS ON JUNE 24, 2014 IN ROOM 5,
                         9:am at the Desert Vista Community Center.

The following is, of course, a very brief summary that focuses on the sources of the losses and the $316 per year impact on all unit owners annual membership dues:

Revenues:
Golf Course............................$3,469,365
Food & Beverage...................     601,388
                   Total ..................  4,070,753

Expenses:
Golf Course............................$5,769,761
Food & Beverage...................     758,979
                   Total ..................  6,528,740

Budgeted Loss ......................$6,528,740  -  $4,070,753 = $2,457,987"

Re: 5 Starr Gaming for the Vista Grill.

Sue, 

After checking my notes, hopefully this will help end all your confusion. Sept 5, 2013 I contacted the then ED, Barbra, asking the rational used with the Agenda item, **X-2. Discussion and motion regarding extending or renewing Templeton Gaming Corporation's lease. President Crawford sent out an arrogant reply, "Lets not forget it's "our" responsibility to do what we think is right, not Kramzer's.  He can run for the Board too." 

​[

I had run twice, mainly to implement a business plan in order to stop co-mingling business expenses (losses) with members dues. Sue, your were one of the eleven candidates that supported a business plan, no plan has yet been implemented.]   

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Sue, if you want you can read the whole story by clicking on this link.

Vista Grill Gaming

​Dwain Kramzar​

(702) 582-8064

​PS: [my comments bracketed in blue]

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Sun City Sue <scsuep@cox.net> wrote:

Dwain,

I have not been mute, but I am recovering from shock when you said you were not asked to participate.  We had one conversation about the golf courses and you told me you would not get involved in making the pro shops a friendlier place and did not like to play golf here.

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​[

​what the conversation was the golf & restaurants were not user friendly, therefore many residents were seeking their needs outside of Sun City.][this has absolutely no relationship with gaming/slot machine/restaurant information] 

Later you called me

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[I returned your call]

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when it became evident that Temple Gaming was not going to stay.  You suggested that a new operator should come in

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[this is not true, my position would have been to hold them to the lease agreement]

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 because there is money to be made just like you did over the years.

​[

not true]

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 I asked if you would help find such an operator and you told me you were finshed

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[not true]

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and retired.

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​[the actual conversation, you stated, Sun City's licence could not be changed, you Referenced Dotty's]

  I find you to be a very experienced and a bright person, I know you care because you are often at the board meetings, but you told me you did not want to run for the board and you were so upset by what is done here in Sun City that you were not interested in wasting your time getting

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[not true]

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involved.

​[

actually I stated that I had run twice, mainly to implement a business plan in order to stop co-mingling business expenses (losses) with members dues. Sue, your were one of the eleven candidates that supported a business plan, no plan has yet been implemented.]   

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We all live togther in this community and we all would run it differently if we were incharge, but the homeowners have elected 9 members of a board to be in

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charge.

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[I believe to provide oversight is the proper phrase.]

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 We don't think alike, but we all think we are doing what is best for the residents and we live with the "majority rules".  In this case, 5 Star Tavern seems to be best for the association and gives those few residents that are active a place to go to eat and gamble within the community.

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[I don't have a problem with 5 Starr Gaming, I do with their business model, a train wreck in the making for our Sun City.] ​

​

Sue

On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Dwain Kramzar wrote:

Mr. Steve, I want to thank you for pointing out to the Board that they are the homeowners elected representives and it's there duty to do just that, represent us all. FYI: In the fifteen years that I have lived in Sun City I have probably attended more Board meetings than most Directors, excluding the career Directors Stienman/Caroccia/Akers. Most of these meetings that I attended were to acquire there insight and thinking, in order to see just how this retirement community was being operated. It took some time to realize that there were good people elected to the Board that soon developed a bad case of group-think, you know the rest.

The Board has refused to acknowledge home-owners concerns including lifestyle, health & welfare of the residents, this being a perfect example. They demean and degrade any member that isn't part of this HOA's Group-Think.

Below I have placed [my comments] to Crawfords accusations.  

1. He , Kramzar,, was asked to participate and refused.  Simple as that. [this is false,  I have documentation do you? I  assume Crawford is repeating the same falsehood that Alitt has posted acting as spokesman for Director Papilion. Director Papilion is being mute,why?]   
   
2. Monday morning quarterbacks now weigh in.  Rather then participate and help, they try and point out flaws after the fact. [is what you are saying is, that there is flaws?]  Their motives are not honorable. [I would highly recommend each and every Sun City resident invest the time to visit these properties and judge for themselves, it's your community. Let the Sun City community decide who is dishonorable, me or you!]
3. ask me respectfully and I will answer respectfully [Great Idea, have you been respectful?]
   

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I sincerely hope more home-owners start paying attention,​

​Dwain Kramzar​

(702) 582-8064

Re: [My Sun City Summerlin-BLOG] Open Letter To Sun City Summerlin Community

Director Alitt,

To set the record straight please reread my correspondence "Open Letter to Sun City Summerlin". I would like to point out a couple facts about the things you alluded to.

1. I firmly believe that this Sun City Community belongs to the homeowners and each and every Sun City resident should invest the time to visit these properties and judge for themselves when making a nine year commitment that involves community lifestyle.
   
2. I wasn't registering a complaint, I was pointing out the history of the Board's unlucky and very costly business decisions. 
3. I wasn't questioning the Board's honesty and integrity, just past results.
   
4. I do question the Board's refusal to address serious community lifestyle, health and welfare concerns presented to them.
5. What I don't understand is why any Director/committee would refuse/ignore an offer to share forty-five years experience when making such an important decision for our Sun City?  
6. These views and comments are strictly my own, not anyone else's views-as you alluded to. 
7. FYI; I have run for the Board. I achieved getting a public commitment of the eleven candidates to implement a business plan that would end co-mingling business expenses with members dues. As I have said in the past I moved to Sun City for a retirment lifestyle, not to be an amature politician. 

If you have any additional confusion regarding my comments, don't hesitate to give me a call. I think our community would be better served that way.  

​Dwain Kramzar​

(702) 582-8064

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM, <Seawolf1963@aol.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Kramzar

My wife and I have both been to Five Star establishments. We brought with us on one visit Rhoda Ring. I know of at least 10-15 other members who have been to one or more of their establishments including all board members as far as I can tell.

Mr. Kramzar's is the very first complaint about Five Star that I have heard.

If you ever run for and get elected to the board you will quickly find out that nothing that the board does pleases everyone.

We do our very best as a board in the open with honesty and integrity. The Five Star lease was the subject of many meetings and on the board agenda at least 3 times. I believe that Mr. Kramzar was in the audience at least once. Personally I never heard a word of objection until after the board approved the lease. Then I heard it from Gelbman, Hall and now Kramzer.

Have a great day.

Bruce Alitt

In a message dated 12/12/2013 8:29:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dkramzar@gmail.com writes:

RE: 5 Starr Gaming/Vista Grill Lease

After attending the 12/3/13 Board meeting where the Board praised themselves and unanimously approved a three/three/three year lease with 5 Starr Gaming for the Vista Grill.

Due to the track record of the past Board's business decisions I was prompted to visit two of the 5 Starr Gaming properties. I observed that 5 Starr's main objective is placement of slot-machines and not providing a social environment for our community, frankly their Saloon operation is not a good fit for our Sun City Community. I would highly recommend each and every Sun City resident invest the time to visit these properties and judge for themselves, it's your community.

The Board made their decision based on a committee chaired by Director/chairman Sue Papilion. I have offered to share my forty-five years experience as owner/operator of Gaming/slot-machine company with this Director/chairman and past Director/chairmans to help them ask the proper questions, and avoid another train wreck, when making their decisions, these offers were ignored.         

Dwain Kramzar

2624 High Range

(702) 582-8064

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