Thursday, May 26, 2011

April 26th meeting and conversation

Ms. Barbara Cogar, SCSCAI-ED

As a follow-up to our April 26th meeting and conversation regarding an approach to implementing a Business Plan for SCSCAI business. At that time I believed that Board support was possible if presented properly; I no longer think that possibility exist due to the following reasons.

  1. It is apparent the SCSCAI business are managed by committee with co-mingled funds, this committee is chaired by a Board member therefore it is an extension of the Board. It is not possible for the Board to provide proper oversight that is required, therefore no one will be held accountable for the LOSSES.
  2. The Board is not ready to relinquish controls of day to day operations and provide oversight to professional management as required in our governing documents.
  3. No professional management team would tolerate being held accountable without a written Business Plan in place. 
Barbra, I had high hopes for a change of direction for our Sun City after struggling through the 2010 fiascoes, maybe next year. At the present time I think it would be a waste of time under the circumstances, if you think differently or an opportunity opens do not hesitate to contact me.  

Thanks for your time and good luck,


Dwain A. Kramzar 
2624 High Range Dr.




On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Dwain Kramzar <dkramzar@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Ms. Barbara Cogar, SCSCAI-ED

My name is Dwain Kramzar. I am a thirteen year member/home-owner here in SCS HOA. Over several years I have expressed my and many other member/home-owners concerns to the Board and Management regarding the Golf and Restaurant business yearly losses.

Last Monday April 18th Director Caroccia phoned me with his thoughts and recommended that I coordinate a meeting with you, Tom Brennan, Sue Papilion and myself. After much thought I would like to set up a one on one meeting with you first; this would give you and I an opportunity to start off on the same page. My goal would be; 

  • Coordinate meeting with the ED,Tom Brennen, Sue Papilion & myself to explain Concepts and motivations for having a Business Plan.
  • A FEW REASONS WHY BUSINESS CAN FAIL
  • Concept: On February 8, 2010 I recommended an Management Coaching concept to the Board. In the past the Golf and Restaurant business have had yearly losses exceeding 2.5 million and rising. The only disciplines of these losses are the Budget approved by the Board, no P&L or Cash flow statement. 
Ms. Cogar, I would like to incorporate many of these concepts in my presentation. Do you have any thoughts or ideas? Give me a call at your convenience.

Thanks for your involvement, hopefully this could be the first step in financial controls for our community. 

-- 
Dwain A. Kramzar 
2624 High Range Dr.




Re: [SC-SCOOP] SECOND RESPONSE TO DAVE STAHLHUT

Bernie, wording taken from the Sun City Summerlin web site describes what a person should expect when buying a home in this retirement community. The incompetent practice of Management by Committee and co-mingling of funds is directly responsible for the failed Business. The Sun City Community should not be penalized for the past Boards micro-management and failure to provide oversight to the management as well-defined in the governing documents. 

Dwain Kramzar

Sun City Summerlin is located in an ideal location, mere minutes from the glamorous action of downtown Las Vegas and the fabled Strip, but it nestles against the Spring Mountain Range, at an altitude of 3,000 feet.  Among the 7,779 homes (which include single family, garden villas and patio homes) are extensive green belt areas, three 18-hole golf courses and extensive recreation facilities.
In addition to the 3 Billy Casper / Greg Nash golf courses and 3 restaurants, there are 4 social and recreation facilities: Mountain Shadows, Desert Vista, Sun Shadows and the Pinnacle.  They incorporate outdoor and indoor pools with spas, 14 tennis courts, 2 paddle tennis courts, craft rooms, card rooms, social halls, a 312-seat theater, exercise rooms with the latest hydraulic exercise equipment, 8 bocce ball courts, 1 racquetball court, miniature golf course and a softball diamond.  See On-Site Amenities for more details. More than 80 resident-organized social and recreational clubs cover a wide variety of interests. 

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Bernard Silver <silverinvegas@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dave,
I forgot to state in my prior RESPONSE TO DAVE STAHLHUT this date, that one of the key possibilities to reduce the Operating Costs for three golf courses is to have an outside contractor operate all three.  I believe that it was a revelation by the prior Human Resourse Director that she had located such a person who with a mere cursory review, speculated that he could save upwards of $500,000 per year.  I believe her efforts were completely ignored by LeVasseur, Culan, and Kelly.  WHY?????
.
Bernie Silver
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Sunday, May 15, 2011

Re: [SCBuzz] Re: SCSCAI Taken Over a Second Time!!!

Don Gelbman; poor management is the direct results of the lack of oversight by the past Boards. The Board or a owner of a business with roughly $4 mil in revenue & LOSSES of $2mil, equaling $6mil in negative cash flow would be insane to continue in the same direction. My point is the Board has failed the reality of math, they have failed to provide the accountability that a basic Business Plan provides therefore they have failed in leadership and oversight of this Sun City.

It would be a shame to make a judgement as to the best interest of the membership based upon dysfunctional Board members that are subject to bend with the wind. Like I have said before many concerned member homeowner have petitioned for a Business Plan in the past only to be ignored, WHY? Until the practice of  Management by Committee and co-mingling of funds is rectified there will be continued LOSSES. I hope there would be consideration for intelligent business procedures before altering Sun City's assets and lifestyles.

Don, these are my observations and view points and meant to provide constructive alternate to the closure dialog. 

Dwain A. Kramzar




On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM, drgtrustpl <drgtrustpl@cox.net> wrote:
 
Dwain:
It is not lack of oversight that will cause the closing but the loses in the past were probably mostly because of poor management. The problem now is lack of leadership. We simply don't need 3 golf courses for our members. It would be in the best interest of the members to utilize the open land in a manner that will be used in the best interest of the members. That is what Sun City Summerlin is suppose to be all about.
Don Gelbman, Director


--- In SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com, Dwain Kramzar <dkramzar@...> wrote:
>
> Don G/Bob P;
> It would be insane to close any of Sun City's golf courses because present
> and past Boards failed to provide proper oversight. The past thirteen years
> I have observed management by committee that has provided the same results
> year after year, continued LOSSES. Professional business practices would
> have utilized a Business Plan and not allowed co-mingling of funds,
> therefore providing accountability to the membership.
>
> Many concerned member homeowner have petitioned for a Business Plan in the
> past only to be ignored, WHY? Until the practice of Committee Management and
> co-mingling of funds is rectified there will be continued LOSSES.
>
> Dwain A. Kramzar
> 702.838.5049
> My Sun City Summerlin-BLOG<http://daksplace.blogspot.com/2011/05/conversation-prior-to-5911-bod-meeting_13.html>

>
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:22 AM, drgtrustpl <drgtrustpl@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Bob P:
> > I don't think that is what will happen. *From what I hear at the Board
> > meetings I believe one or more golf courses WILL be closed as required.*The problem is that like all our boards they will do nothing until
> > absolutely necessary and then they will screw up how they do it.
> >
> > With the slow Las Vegas recovery the nature of SCSCAI's finances is in the
> > process of permanently changing. There will be a large renter population
> > with the owners being businesses or individuals who only care about the
> > bottom line. *We should be shaping SCSCAI now to prevent losing what we
> > all bought into but WE ARE NOT.* It is only a matter of time and if we
> > don't get smart very soon we will not have the ability to protect our way of
> > life.
> >
> > House values were never determined by our dues or how we ran this place. We
> > should never have been talking about that and wouldn't if the Realtors
> > (McCanna, et al) didn't have their own Agenda.
> > Don Gelbman, Director
> >
> > --- In SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com, BobEmInc@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Don Gelbman - Don with all you say I just wonder if the Sun City
> > Summerlin
> > > residents fully realize that the Board has agreed by their actions and
> > > inactions that the SCSCAI financial losses can well go into the millions
> > as they
> > > have, with a 20 to 30 million dollar figure being discussed. What does
> > > this mean - - - it means as with several other HOAS, that when the losses
> >
> > > become too much to have the SCSCAI seniors continue to cover the losses,
> > then
> > > the Board may very well look to recover the losses they now care little
> > about.
> > > In recovering the current losses of near $16,000,000 since Del Webb left,
> >
> > > that would mean an assessment to each SCSCAI homeowner of near $2,056.00
> > a
> > > home. I guess the Board and the residents feel they can easily pay that
> > > assessment. Did I hear that SCSCAI is managed out of hand????? WAKE UP
> > > FOLKS, and lets buy the Board an alarm clock to wake
> > > them up also!!!!!
> > >
> > > My best to those who care little for the SCSCAI seniors!
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > Passmonick
> > >
> > > P.S. Being SCSCAI has thrived on honesty as noted by the Board, then
> > > lets inform
> > > purchasers of these financial facts, and just imagine what this
> > > would do to
> > > resales!!!!!
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/13/2011 11:13:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > drgtrustpl@ writes:
> > >
> > > > Subj: [SCBuzz] Re: SCSCAI Taken Over a Second Time!!!
> > > > Date: 5/13/2011 11:13:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> > > > From: drgtrustpl@
> > > > Reply-to: SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com
> > > > To: SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent from the Internet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bob P:
> > > > This Board has no intention of doing anything about golf and restaurant
> >
> > > > losses until forced to. The membership is not only being forced to pay
> > for
> > > > things that are of no benefit to them but many are getting richly
> > rewarded
> > > > for nothing and even more are cheating their neighbor. Everyone on this
> > chat
> > > > line knows that and in time with some luck everyone will know. I am not
> >
> > > > sure what is available to force a showdown but I am sure that whatever
> > it is I
> > > > will find a way to use it.
> > > >
> > > > In the past as you have told everyone the Board was able to control by
> > > > threats and phony actions. Friar and Factor found out what that means
> > when 4
> > > > employees ripped us off with phony charges arranged by the then ED.
> > > >
> > > > Robey was able to avoid any such problem because I was always available
> >
> > > > and often prevented false accusations like the one President Post tried
> > to
> > > > foster.
> > > >
> > > > Now I am their problem and I look forward to the fight. What I couldn't
> > do
> > > > as an attorney I may be able to do as a Director. At least I hope so.
> > > > Don Gelbman, Director
> > > >
> >
>

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    Dwain A. Kramzar
    702.838.5049

    Saturday, May 14, 2011

    Re: [SCBuzz] Re: SCSCAI Taken Over a Second Time!!!

    Don G/Bob P;
    It would be insane to close any of Sun City's golf courses because present and past Boards failed to provide proper oversight. The past thirteen years I have observed management by committee that has provided the same results year after year, continued LOSSES. Professional business practices would have utilized a Business Plan and not allowed co-mingling of funds, therefore providing accountability to the membership. 

    Many concerned member homeowner have petitioned for a Business Plan in the past only to be ignored, WHY? Until the practice of Committee Management and co-mingling of funds is rectified there will be continued LOSSES.

    Dwain A. Kramzar
    702.838.5049

    On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:22 AM, drgtrustpl <drgtrustpl@cox.net> wrote:
     
    Bob P:
    I don't think that is what will happen. From what I hear at the Board meetings I believe one or more golf courses WILL be closed as required. The problem is that like all our boards they will do nothing until absolutely necessary and then they will screw up how they do it.

    With the slow Las Vegas recovery the nature of SCSCAI's finances is in the process of permanently changing. There will be a large renter population with the owners being businesses or individuals who only care about the bottom line. We should be shaping SCSCAI now to prevent losing what we all bought into but WE ARE NOT. It is only a matter of time and if we don't get smart very soon we will not have the ability to protect our way of life.

    House values were never determined by our dues or how we ran this place. We should never have been talking about that and wouldn't if the Realtors (McCanna, et al) didn't have their own Agenda.
    Don Gelbman, Director

    --- In SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com, BobEmInc@... wrote:
    >
    > Don Gelbman - Don with all you say I just wonder if the Sun City Summerlin
    > residents fully realize that the Board has agreed by their actions and
    > inactions that the SCSCAI financial losses can well go into the millions as they
    > have, with a 20 to 30 million dollar figure being discussed. What does
    > this mean - - - it means as with several other HOAS, that when the losses
    > become too much to have the SCSCAI seniors continue to cover the losses, then
    > the Board may very well look to recover the losses they now care little about.
    > In recovering the current losses of near $16,000,000 since Del Webb left,
    > that would mean an assessment to each SCSCAI homeowner of near $2,056.00 a
    > home. I guess the Board and the residents feel they can easily pay that
    > assessment. Did I hear that SCSCAI is managed out of hand????? WAKE UP
    > FOLKS, and lets buy the Board an alarm clock to wake
    > them up also!!!!!
    >
    > My best to those who care little for the SCSCAI seniors!
    >
    > Bob
    > Passmonick
    >
    > P.S. Being SCSCAI has thrived on honesty as noted by the Board, then
    > lets inform
    > purchasers of these financial facts, and just imagine what this
    > would do to
    > resales!!!!!
    >
    > In a message dated 5/13/2011 11:13:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    > drgtrustpl@... writes:
    >
    > > Subj: [SCBuzz] Re: SCSCAI Taken Over a Second Time!!!
    > > Date: 5/13/2011 11:13:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    > > From: drgtrustpl@...
    > > Reply-to: SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com
    > > To: SCBuzz@yahoogroups.com
    > > Sent from the Internet
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Bob P:
    > > This Board has no intention of doing anything about golf and restaurant
    > > losses until forced to. The membership is not only being forced to pay for
    > > things that are of no benefit to them but many are getting richly rewarded
    > > for nothing and even more are cheating their neighbor. Everyone on this chat
    > > line knows that and in time with some luck everyone will know. I am not
    > > sure what is available to force a showdown but I am sure that whatever it is I
    > > will find a way to use it.
    > >
    > > In the past as you have told everyone the Board was able to control by
    > > threats and phony actions. Friar and Factor found out what that means when 4
    > > employees ripped us off with phony charges arranged by the then ED.
    > >
    > > Robey was able to avoid any such problem because I was always available
    > > and often prevented false accusations like the one President Post tried to
    > > foster.
    > >
    > > Now I am their problem and I look forward to the fight. What I couldn't do
    > > as an attorney I may be able to do as a Director. At least I hope so.
    > > Don Gelbman, Director
    > >

    Friday, May 13, 2011

    conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting

    Mr. Joe O'Connell SCSCAI President,
    Joe, after studying your reply to our conversation we had before the 5/9/11 BoD meeting I got the impression you did not understand that my intentions were only to ask the Board to revisit my July 1, 2010 registered complaint sent to Ron Winkel-ED, SCSCAI Board and Joe Kelley-Director of Golf. This complaint was met with silence and ignored. As far as your other remarks, I have taken the time to make some minor corrections in [brackets]. I would be interested in seeing the Associations files associated with this and my adjoining neighbors complaints; this would clear up any differences of facts shown in the photos. 

    Joe, if you require any other clarifications of facts do not hesitate to give me a call.  


    Dwain A. Kramzar-SCSCAI member
    702.838.5049
    2624 High Range Dr.
    Las Vegas, NV 89134

    ---------- Re: message ----------
    From: Joseph P. O'Connell <jpocon@cox.net>
    Date: Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:11 AM
    Subject: RE: conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting
    To: Dwain Kramzar <dkramzar@embarqmail.com>
    Cc: David Steinman <dwsteinman@cox.net>, DON GELBMAN <drgtrustpl@cox.net>, "Ellen C. Bachman" <ebachman@embarqmail.com>, Ken Caroccia <kcaroccia@cox.net>, Marilyn LeVasseur <levasseur07@cox.net>, Sue Papilion <scsuep@cox.net>, Joe Kelly <JoeK@suncitylv.com>, My Sun City Summerlin-Blog <DKramzar.daksplace@blogger.com>, Barbara Cogar <BarbaraC@suncitylv.com>



    Mr. Kramzar:  During our conversation I said that the tee boxes were not pointed at your house. [your exact words were "I'm very familiar with the HF course & the t-boxes were changed & squared off to point to the center poll in the center of the fairway" in other words I didn't know what I am talking about] I also said that we were not ignoring your complaint.  It had been adjudicated the prior year.  Joe O [by definition of adjudicated the Board has extended it's powers to include those outlined below]  


    Adjudication

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Adjudication is the legal process by which an arbiter or judge reviews evidence andargumentation including legal reasoning set forth by opposing parties or litigants to come to a decision which determines rights and obligations between the parties involved. Three types of disputes are resolved through adjudication:

    -----Original Message-----
    From: dkramzar@gmail.com [mailto:dkramzar@gmail.comOn Behalf Of Dwain Kramzar
    Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:05 PM
    To: Joe O'Connell
    Cc: David Steinman; DON GELBMAN; Ellen C. Bachman; Ken Caroccia; Marilyn LeVasseur; Sue Papilion; Joe Kelly; My Sun City Summerlin-Blog; Barbara Cogar
    Subject: conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting

    Mr. Joe O'Connell, SCSCAI President, GOC- Chairman

    Per our conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting regarding alignment of T-boxes on the fourth hole of Highland Falls. As you see in the attached HighlandFalls4t.jpg there was no modification to the 4th T-boxes as you insisted, Ref Winkel/Kelley High Land Falls Errant Golf Ball Study July 2010.  I have attached below a copy of my response to 8/16/10 Board's irresponsible ignoring of their responsibility to the health and welfare of this HOA's members. Section 2 of this document is an aerial overview of the 4th fairway on Highland Falls Golf Course that makes it clear to see why this problem exists and that Mr. Winkel's Golf Staff's recommendations were not a responsible solution.

     Joe, as I stated today, my intentions are to ask the Board to revisit my July 1, 2010 registered complaint sent Ron Winkel-ED, SCSCAI Board and Joe Kelley-Director of Golf, this complaint was met with silence and ignored. 

    Reference documents Links:  

    Joe, denial that a problem exists never can be the solution and will prove to be the most costly for the Association. Hopefully after the examination of these documented facts the Board will consider rectifying these conditions.

    I would appreciate a reply.

    --
    Dwain A. Kramzar -Member #11629000
    702.838.5049" target="_blank" value="+17028385049">702.838.5049


    Wednesday, May 11, 2011

    conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting

    Bob Robey, I thought you would find Joe O's response interesting [my comments]. This response is a perfect example good neighbors being contaminated by the power of politics. Politics has replaced the intent outlined in our governing documents.  

    Bob, I think your idea of gathering some documents and going to the media has merit, where to start? Johnathan and your efforts appears to be making a difference on the State level. Don Gelbman is making a difference here in SC, however Don can not do it by himself, what he needs is a support network, how can this be accomplished? Is a recall a possibility? What is needed is a sense of Community-pride.

    That's enough of my jiber,  give me a call when you get a chance.

    DAK

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Joseph P. O'Connell <jpocon@cox.net>
    Date: Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:11 AM
    Subject: RE: conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting
    To: Dwain Kramzar <dkramzar@embarqmail.com>
    Cc: David Steinman <dwsteinman@cox.net>, DON GELBMAN <drgtrustpl@cox.net>, "Ellen C. Bachman" <ebachman@embarqmail.com>, Ken Caroccia <kcaroccia@cox.net>, Marilyn LeVasseur <levasseur07@cox.net>, Sue Papilion <scsuep@cox.net>, Joe Kelly <JoeK@suncitylv.com>, My Sun City Summerlin-Blog <DKramzar.daksplace@blogger.com>, Barbara Cogar <BarbaraC@suncitylv.com>


    Mr. Kramzar:  During our conversation I said that the tee boxes were not pointed at your house. [his exact words were "I'm on the HF course everyday & the t-boxes were changed & squared off to point to the center poll in the center of the fairway" in other words I didn't know what I am talking about] I also said that we were not ignoring your complaint.  It had been adjudicated the prior year.  Joe O [by definition of adjudicated the Board has extended it's powers to include those outlined below]  


    Adjudication

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Adjudication is the legal process by which an arbiter or judge reviews evidence andargumentation including legal reasoning set forth by opposing parties or litigants to come to a decision which determines rights and obligations between the parties involved. Three types of disputes are resolved through adjudication:

    -----Original Message-----
    From: dkramzar@gmail.com [mailto:dkramzar@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Dwain Kramzar
    Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:05 PM
    To: Joe O'Connell
    Cc: David Steinman; DON GELBMAN; Ellen C. Bachman; Ken Caroccia; Marilyn LeVasseur; Sue Papilion; Joe Kelly; My Sun City Summerlin-Blog; Barbara Cogar
    Subject: conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting

    Mr. Joe O'Connell, SCSCAI President, GOC- Chairman

    Per our conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting regarding alignment of T-boxes on the fourth hole of Highland Falls. As you see in the attached HighlandFalls4t.jpg there was no modification to the 4th T-boxes as you insisted, Ref Winkel/Kelley High Land Falls Errant Golf Ball Study July 2010.  I have attached below a copy of my response to 8/16/10 Board's irresponsible ignoring of their responsibility to the health and welfare of this HOA's members. Section 2 of this document is an aerial overview of the 4th fairway on Highland Falls Golf Course that makes it clear to see why this problem exists and that Mr. Winkel's Golf Staff's recommendations were not a responsible solution.

     Joe, as I stated today, my intentions are to ask the Board to revisit my July 1, 2010 registered complaint sent Ron Winkel-ED, SCSCAI Board and Joe Kelley-Director of Golf, this complaint was met with silence and ignored. 

    Reference documents Links:  

    Joe, denial that a problem exists never can be the solution and will prove to be the most costly for the Association. Hopefully after the examination of these documented facts the Board will consider rectifying these conditions.

    I would appreciate a reply.

    --
    Dwain A. Kramzar -Member #11629000

    Thursday, August 19, 2010


    8/16/10 SCSCAI Board Meeting

    Response-
    8/16/10 SCSCAI Board Meeting
    Tuesday, August 17, 2010
    8:53 AM
    Mr. David Steinman, President
    Sun City Summerlin Community Association Inc.

    Mr. Steinman, as stated in my statement at the BoD meeting yesterday, "I want to make one thing perfectly clear, I am not asking for anything more or less than what is described in Nevada Law and our governing documents. I am asking SCSCAI to rectify this situation before I replace my leaking roof due to the over abundant errant golf balls striking my property causing excessive damage to the roof tile, stucco and personal injury" SCSCAI is responsible for this problem, therefore they are the only one that can rectify this problem. Section 2 of this document is an aerial overview of the 4th fairway on Highland Falls Golf Course that makes it clear to see why this problem exists and that Mr. Winkel's Golf Staff's recommendations were not a responsible solution.

    By the BoD's overwhelming silence, under your leadership, It is obvious that you and the Board
    share Mr. Winkel's position that the CC&R's relieve any responsibility of SCSCAI for the health and welfare of this HOA members. This is inconceivable, I believe that health and welfare is a major responsibility of  any elected Board of Directors. My understanding of governing documents, which includes the CC&R's, is to protect the homeowners health, welfare and community standards, not to shield Boards and management from their responsibilities.

    It is irresponsible for these conditions to be ignored any longer. Just think how it will look when a serious injury happens.

    Dwain A. Kramzar-member of SCSCAI
    2624 High Range Dr.
    Section 2



    Placement of T-boxes on 4th hole on Highland Falls. When lining up on Black or White T's points player in a direction that directly points to point (A) on map, 2624 High Range Dr. causing player to subconsciously  plant their feet in that direction, causing errant balls.

    Blue Line = ideal line of flight.

    Due to the narrow design of this fairway leaves little margin of error.

    Trajectory  Screens are commonly used on golf courses with this type of problem





    --
    Dwain A. Kramzar

    Monday, May 9, 2011

    conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting

    Mr. Joe O'Connell, SCSCAI President, GOC- Chairman

    Per our conversation prior to the 5/9/11 BoD meeting regarding alignment of T-boxes on the fourth hole of Highland Falls. As you see in the attached HighlandFalls4t.jpg there was no modification to the 4th T-boxes as you insisted, Ref Winkel/Kelley High Land Falls Errant Golf Ball Study July 2010.  I have attached below a copy of my response to 8/16/10 Board's irresponsible ignoring of their responsibility to the health and welfare of this HOA's members. Section 2 of this document is an aerial overview of the 4th fairway on Highland Falls Golf Course that makes it clear to see why this problem exists and that Mr. Winkel's Golf Staff's recommendations were not a responsible solution.

     Joe, as I stated today, my intentions are to ask the Board to revisit my July 1, 2010 registered complaint sent Ron Winkel-ED, SCSCAI Board and Joe Kelley-Director of Golf, this complaint was met with silence and ignored. 

    Reference documents Links:  

    Joe, denial that a problem exists never can be the solution and will prove to be the most costly for the Association. Hopefully after the examination of these documented facts the Board will consider rectifying these conditions.

    I would appreciate a reply.

    --
    Dwain A. Kramzar -Member #11629000
    702.838.5049

    Thursday, August 19, 2010


    8/16/10 SCSCAI Board Meeting

    Response-
    8/16/10 SCSCAI Board Meeting
    Tuesday, August 17, 2010
    8:53 AM
    Mr. David Steinman, President
    Sun City Summerlin Community Association Inc.

    Mr. Steinman, as stated in my statement at the BoD meeting yesterday, "I want to make one thing perfectly clear, I am not asking for anything more or less than what is described in Nevada Law and our governing documents. I am asking SCSCAI to rectify this situation before I replace my leaking roof due to the over abundant errant golf balls striking my property causing excessive damage to the roof tile, stucco and personal injury" SCSCAI is responsible for this problem, therefore they are the only one that can rectify this problem. Section 2 of this document is an aerial overview of the 4th fairway on Highland Falls Golf Course that makes it clear to see why this problem exists and that Mr. Winkel's Golf Staff's recommendations were not a responsible solution.

    By the BoD's overwhelming silence, under your leadership, It is obvious that you and the Board
    share Mr. Winkel's position that the CC&R's relieve any responsibility of SCSCAI for the health and welfare of this HOA members. This is inconceivable, I believe that health and welfare is a major responsibility of  any elected Board of Directors. My understanding of governing documents, which includes the CC&R's, is to protect the homeowners health, welfare and community standards, not to shield Boards and management from their responsibilities.

    It is irresponsible for these conditions to be ignored any longer. Just think how it will look when a serious injury happens.

    Dwain A. Kramzar-member of SCSCAI
    2624 High Range Dr.
    702.838.5049
    Section 2



    Placement of T-boxes on 4th hole on Highland Falls. When lining up on Black or White T's points player in a direction that directly points to point (A) on map, 2624 High Range Dr. causing player to subconsciously  plant their feet in that direction, causing errant balls.

    Blue Line = ideal line of flight.

    Due to the narrow design of this fairway leaves little margin of error.

    Trajectory  Screens are commonly used on golf courses with this type of problem