Dear Sun City Neighbors;
I am attaching my comments I sent to Don Gelbman Esq. pertaining to the FULL DISCLOSURE/Blackmail Letter sent to SCSCAI Board of Directors leading up to the hi-jacking of our SCSCAI-HOA and the removal of President Steinman. Your Sun City needs your involvement! Pay particular attention to Mr. Gelbman's last sentence "We can't do it for you."
Please CONTACT your neighbors.
(If you know of anyone that would like a COPY sent by US Mail please let me know and I would be happy to send them one.)
If you have any questions do not hesitate to give me a call,
Dwain A. Kramzar
2624 High Range Dr.
702.838.5049
Re: FULL DISCLOSURE
Don Gelbman, I find you post enlightening and troublesome particularly page 4 (Highlighted), this is a case of extortion and blackmail by the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force by the signers - Richard Post --Ed Walterscheid ------Frank Beers, Jim Flynn, Bernard Bronstein, Gary Conrath
The major problem is that this small gang of six not only hi-jacked our SCSCAI - HOA they now have complete control of Board of Directors and Finance Committee. The Finance Committee under the direction of Jim Flynn (one of the extortionist) has complete control over millions of SCSCAI dollars. Motivation for all extortion is money and power, follow the $$$.
Dwain A. Kramzar
Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 PM
From: "DONALD GELBMAN" <drgtrustpl@...
To: SC-SCOOP@...: "'Board of Directors'" <bod@...>
Last night, Mr. O'Connell referred to a letter when he voted against the
appointment of Beers and Flynn to the Board. He quoted from some of it.
I believe it has now been made public and that the Association has a right to know what it was all about. My comments are in underlined CAPS and I think each of you should be concerned. So far there has been nothing but apathy. Members of the Sun City Summerlin chat line SC-SCOOP knows more than most and for all of you who get the Village Voice and McCanna's newsletter it is time to speak up. We can't do it for you.
Don Gelbman.
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> Here is the letter: FULL DISCLOSURE/Blackmail Letter sent to SCSCAI BoD
Dear Board Members:
As former Board members, we are deeply concerned by the manner in which the Board has handled the Ron Winkel matter and other events during the past five months. We believe that the efforts to remove Mr. Winkel as Executive Director have been driven by the actions of President Steinman who has been acting out of personal animosity to Mr. Winkel as well as a desire to remove Mr. Winkel in order to have Ms. Kate Carroll become Executive Director of the Association. A DISGUSTING ALLEGATION.
We believe this animosity began a year ago when then Director Steinman
vociferously argued with then President Post and Mr. Winkel that Ms. Carroll had to be named as acting Executive Director when Mr. Winkel went on vacation: In that meeting Steinman, incorrectly and adamantly declared that only a licensed Community Association Manager (CAM) could act in Mr. Winkel's absence and became highly incensed when both then President Post and Mr. Winkel rejected his views. IF THIS IS TRUE MR. STEINMAN WAS WRONG.
We have good reason to believe that shortly after he became President of the Association this year, President Steinman informed a fellow Board member that he intended to do everything he could to get Mr. Winkel removed as Executive Director and have him replaced with Ms. Carroll. We believe that President Steinman viewed the investigatory actions implemented by the Board both before and after the dismissal of the prior Human Resources (HR) Director as a golden opportunity to accomplish this purpose. We know that after this dismissal occurred, President Steinman improperly and without authority ordered Mr. Winkel to appoint Ms. Carroll as acting HR Director and ordered him to provide her a significant salary increase because she was "having financial difficulties" and would be doing two jobs. THIS IS TYPICAL OF THE WAY THIS BOARD OPERATES HOWEVER THE EVIDENCE AGAINST WINKEL SHOULD HAVE HAD THE COMPLETE BOARD BEHIND MR. STEINMAN
From: "DONALD GELBMAN" <drgtrustpl@...
To: SC-SCOOP@...: "'Board of Directors'" <bod@...>
Last night, Mr. O'Connell referred to a letter when he voted against the
appointment of Beers and Flynn to the Board. He quoted from some of it.
I believe it has now been made public and that the Association has a right to know what it was all about. My comments are in underlined CAPS and I think each of you should be concerned. So far there has been nothing but apathy. Members of the Sun City Summerlin chat line SC-SCOOP knows more than most and for all of you who get the Village Voice and McCanna's newsletter it is time to speak up. We can't do it for you.
Don Gelbman.
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> Here is the letter: FULL DISCLOSURE/Blackmail Letter sent to SCSCAI BoD
Dear Board Members:
As former Board members, we are deeply concerned by the manner in which the Board has handled the Ron Winkel matter and other events during the past five months. We believe that the efforts to remove Mr. Winkel as Executive Director have been driven by the actions of President Steinman who has been acting out of personal animosity to Mr. Winkel as well as a desire to remove Mr. Winkel in order to have Ms. Kate Carroll become Executive Director of the Association. A DISGUSTING ALLEGATION.
We believe this animosity began a year ago when then Director Steinman
vociferously argued with then President Post and Mr. Winkel that Ms. Carroll had to be named as acting Executive Director when Mr. Winkel went on vacation: In that meeting Steinman, incorrectly and adamantly declared that only a licensed Community Association Manager (CAM) could act in Mr. Winkel's absence and became highly incensed when both then President Post and Mr. Winkel rejected his views. IF THIS IS TRUE MR. STEINMAN WAS WRONG.
We have good reason to believe that shortly after he became President of the Association this year, President Steinman informed a fellow Board member that he intended to do everything he could to get Mr. Winkel removed as Executive Director and have him replaced with Ms. Carroll. We believe that President Steinman viewed the investigatory actions implemented by the Board both before and after the dismissal of the prior Human Resources (HR) Director as a golden opportunity to accomplish this purpose. We know that after this dismissal occurred, President Steinman improperly and without authority ordered Mr. Winkel to appoint Ms. Carroll as acting HR Director and ordered him to provide her a significant salary increase because she was "having financial difficulties" and would be doing two jobs. THIS IS TYPICAL OF THE WAY THIS BOARD OPERATES HOWEVER THE EVIDENCE AGAINST WINKEL SHOULD HAVE HAD THE COMPLETE BOARD BEHIND MR. STEINMAN
We- know that since April, 2010 the Board-has-engaged in use of executive sessions having to do with Mr. Winkel and that the majority of those sessions were not properly noticed before they occurred. We know that on several occasions in those executive sessions the Board took actions that are directly contrary to NRS 116.3185(3). Specifically, we are aware that in executive session the Board voted to place Mr. Winkel on administrative leave and that the Board voted to make Ms. Carroll Interim Executive Director. We also know that Mr. Winkel was placed on administrative leave for three weeks and that during this period President Steinman instructed staff to falsely inform residents that Mr. Winkel was on vacation. We are also aware that President Steinman has improperly and without authority directed billing statements from the investigating attorney to be sent to his home rather than to the Administration Office. IT IS AMAZING WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW. THAT IN ITSELF IS SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. SURE YOU AND ALL PRIOR BOARD MEMBERS FELT QUITE COMFORTABLE IN OPERATING IMPROPERLY. WHY BRAG ABOUT IT?
Dear Board Members: August 31, 2010 Page 2
We are aware of four specific allegations made against Mr. Winkel and
presented to the Board. We believe that three of those allegations are without merit. We believe that with regard to one of them, the Board was unduly influenced by a belief and concern that the Association could be fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for having undocumented workers on its payroll. We believe that President Steinman and one or two other Board members actively encouraged this concern. We believe that if the Association fully complies with the ongoing investigation and properly completes the paperwork required that there is a good chance that fines may well be avoided. I DOUBT THAT THREE ALLEGATIONS NOT MENTIONED ARE WITHOUT MERIT. YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF LIARS THAT HAVE BEEN VIOLATING YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTY FOR YEARS AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. THE PRESENT BOARD HAS NO INTENTION OF FULL COMPLIANCE. THEY HAVE SHOWN NO INTEREST IN OBEYING THE LAW AND THE HOMEOWNERS WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR ARROGANCE.
While we believe that Mr. Winkel acted inappropriately in forming an Home Owners Association (HOA) management firm without first getting prior Board approval, we can find no evidence whatever that during the time this HOA firm was in existence any action by it harmed the Association in any way. Nor can we find any evidence that any action by Mr. Winkel with respect to it harmed the Association in any significant way. We are aware that recently a newslett'er for an HOA managed by this firm was found in an Association folding machine and the Board has assumed it was there because Mr. Winkel was using the machine for his private firm. We are unaware, however, that the Board has made any attempt to discuss this matter with Mr. Winkel or to consider it in any way a controlling matter in the determination to remove Mr. Winkel. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? YOU CAN FIND NO EVIDENCE. I GUARANTEE THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE.
We are also aware that the Board is considering an agreement with Mr. Winkel whereby his leaving the Association will be presented as a voluntary decision on his part. We know, and you know, that is simply false. We know that the Board threatened to seek removal of his license if he did not leave under the terms dictated by it. We are gravely concerned that the Board decided to act in this fashion, particularly since we believe that if the Board had actually attempted such an action itwould have subjected the Association to a major lawsuit which it may well have lost. THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS A FARCE AND A FRAUDULENT WASTE OF ASSOCIATION MONEY.
Unfortunately itappears that all of the board members are complicit in the violation of NRS116 as it relates to agenda notice of action items and open debate before a vote is taken. We will dispense with a complete listing of these items as you all are aware of what you have done. In addition there is the question of improperly noticed executive committee meetings both before and after such meetings. While we lack evidence, we are concerned that the Board has not caused proper minutes to be prepared and approved of all of these executive sessions. The number of instances of violation appear to be numerous and of significance. Under Nevada law a fine up to $1000 may be levied for each instance of violation. (NRS
Dear Board Members: August 31, 2010 Page3
We are also aware that an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) statement has been filed against President Steinman alleging sexual harassment. We are also aware that five Board members are aware of and have heard the content of a voice mail that President Steinman sent to the Association's executive secretary. That voice mail has content that is extremely embarrassing to both President Sieinman and Ms. Carroll. We believe it is more than sufficient to demonstrate that President Steinman has a relationship with Ms. Carroll that goes beyond that which is appropriate between the President of the Association and the Interim Executive Director of the Association. The failure of the Board to take any action to date on this statement after being made awaPe of the voice mail and other information is very unfortunate and may put the Association in a bad light as the EEOC investigation proceeds. THIS BOARD NEEDS NO HELP IN SCREWING UP, THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. YOUR PRESENTATION OF FACTS IS FAULTY AND YOUR CONCLUSION THAT MR. STEINMAN DID ANYTHING WRONG IS INCORRECT IN LAW AND FACT. SHAME ON YOU FOR USING AN UNINTENDED MESSAGE ON AN ANSWER MACHINE AS EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING. THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT YOU 6 CARE NOTHING ABOUT TRUTH. YOU NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL.
We are also aware that an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) statement has been filed against President Steinman alleging sexual harassment. We are also aware that five Board members are aware of and have heard the content of a voice mail that President Steinman sent to the Association's executive secretary. That voice mail has content that is extremely embarrassing to both President Sieinman and Ms. Carroll. We believe it is more than sufficient to demonstrate that President Steinman has a relationship with Ms. Carroll that goes beyond that which is appropriate between the President of the Association and the Interim Executive Director of the Association. The failure of the Board to take any action to date on this statement after being made awaPe of the voice mail and other information is very unfortunate and may put the Association in a bad light as the EEOC investigation proceeds. THIS BOARD NEEDS NO HELP IN SCREWING UP, THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. YOUR PRESENTATION OF FACTS IS FAULTY AND YOUR CONCLUSION THAT MR. STEINMAN DID ANYTHING WRONG IS INCORRECT IN LAW AND FACT. SHAME ON YOU FOR USING AN UNINTENDED MESSAGE ON AN ANSWER MACHINE AS EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING. THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT YOU 6 CARE NOTHING ABOUT TRUTH. YOU NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL.
A formal EEOC complaint could result in sanctions and sizable financial
liabilities against all involved and the association. Given President Steinman's past role as a City of Las Vegas City Councilman and of the Las Vegas Planning Commission we believe that, unfortunately for Sun City, ihe media might be inclined to be more interested in these allegations than under normal circumstances. Of course a story involving an age restricted community and these allegations would be titillating to some. We are hopeful that we can avoid such unpleasant publicity being brought to bear on our community. Such publicity would make itextremely difficult to recruit a highly qualified candidate to replace Mr. Winkel and would almost certainly affect home values. THIS BOARD SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE ALL OF THE LIES AND DECEIT. WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF OUR MONEY AND THE WAY THIS ORGANIZATION IS RUN NO HONEST AND ABOVE BOARD EXECUTIVE WOULD TOUCH IT. IN FACT NO ONE SHOULD SERVE ON THE BOARD SINCE THE WAY IT IS OPERATED MAKES ALL SUBJECT TO INVESTIGATION AND REQUIRES A 24/7 UNPAID EFFORT. WHY DOES THE PRESENT BOARD WANT TO GIVE THAT TYPE OF EFFORT FOR NO PAY? GOOD QUESTION. IF THE BOARD WAS OPERATED PROPERLY ALL A DIRECTOR WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DID HIS JOB. THAT IS WHY HE GETS PAID SO WHY WOULD A DIRECTOR WANT TO DO HIS OR HER JOB.
It should be obvious to the members of the Board that President Steinman's behavior as President is causing serious problems. We would like to state that we have a complete lack of confidence in President Steinman in his present role in this community as President, Director, and Chairman of the Architectural Review Committee (ARC). IT IS ONLY OBVIOUS TO THE 4 BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE IN BED WITH YOU.
Dear Board Members: August 31, 2010 Page 4
The solution to these problems is for President Steinman to immediately resign
from all of his roles in this community and spare himself and this community
from a very unpleasant series of events. We believe the Board must be proactive
in assuring that President Steimnan resigns. Absent President Steinman's
resignation we will take the following actions: we would first file a number of
resident complaints dealing with the above items with the Board to be heard at
the September meeting of the Board, second we would call an open meeting of the
Association to discuss in depth the items outlined above and any others that are
pertinent and third we would file with the Commission for the Common Interest
Communities and Condminium Hotels, Nevada Real Estate-Division (CICCH)
complaints on the Boards illegal actions. Beyond these steps we are prepared to
proceed in any legal manner available to complete our objective of restoring the
proper and legal functioning of our board and the return of proper management for staff.
We will cease our protests on the foregoing subjects upon Mr. Steinman's resignations. He should resign on or before September 7, 2010. SHAME ON YOU. YOU DID THE SAME THING WHEN YOU HAD MR. BARSKY USE RAINEY DAY AND 3 OR 4 OTHER EMPLOYEES TO TRY AND FORCE FRIAR AND FACTOR TO RESIGN. IT DIDN'T WORK THEN AND WONT WORK NOW. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IN THOSE DAYS WE PAID EVERYONE OFF AND LIFE WENT ON. TODAY YOU AND YOUR 4 BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT ICE INTO THE PICTURE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR OPEN INVESTIGATION. AS FOR THE EEOC COMPLAINT BY MARTIN, FORGET IT. YOU PAID OFF WINKEL BUT YOU WILL HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH PAYING OFF ANYONE ELSE. KATE HAS BEE SEVERLY DAMAGED BY YOU AND YOUR GROUP AND SHE WILL GET ADEQUATELY COMPENSATED FOR THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN YOU HAVE TAKEN IN THE NAME OF SCSCAI.
Richard Post --Ed Walterscheid ------Frank Beers, Jim Flynn, Bernard
Bronstein, Gary Conrath
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