Bernie, you have pointed out how incompetent Winkel and Kelley's management has been therefore depriving our community of the retirement Lifestyle that we all expected. Let me point out that the incompetencies of Winkel and Kelley are the results of lack oversight and accountability by the BoD. It is the responsibility of the Sun City home-owners to hold our elected Representatives accountable. Sun City Summerlin belongs to the residents not to the Attorneys and amateur politicians.
It is sad to say that I don't see any change in our management or governance situation until we follow the intent outlined in the original governing documents as Director Gelbman has tried to point out.
Question; why would any responsible elected Director fail to acknowledge the governing documents? Why the resistance to using a "Business Plan"?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Bernard Silver <silverinvegas@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dwain Kramzar.While I believe that this was NOT the only reason, that President Steinman failed to get the message for remedial action to the Executive Director at that time, it was pretty clear that he ( Winkel ) who was responsible for all day to day activities, clearly was not managing the two business operations under Kelly. At that time the Annual Projected losses from the Kelly managed businesses was even greater than the current which are, a loss of $2,841,535 for the 2011 FY ending June 30, 2011. This will be $365 per unit owner, for this FY 2011.Of course, if we continue to give away our benefits as owners of this community to the outside world for a price that even our own members don't get, Kelly will be able to lower the losses during the next 4 months of this Fiscal Year. It is my opinion that this is the area on which he is concentrating on and to He-- with dissidents such as Ivans and you who knew very well that golf balls do not have GPS guidance. In my opinion, you have been the victim in what can be described as a typical act of "Senior Abuse".Perhaps when persons in control, i.e. the members of the Board of Directors recognize that their failures as 'Fiduciaries' are causing huge growing losses and further degradation in values of houses in our community they will wake up.Meanwhile Dwain, I don't have to advise you what to do to protect yourself and family from injury, and property damage. Ivans claim was ignored until a Judge came out to see the situation.Recently I had great confidence that the current Board, less the two trouble makers of the prior Board would be moving rapidly to resolve such mis management problems. I'm convinced that a real change has yet to happen.
Bernard Silver==============================================================
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Dwain Kramzar <dkramzar@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Director Glebman, I find your post most interesting. Trying to avoid a similar situation I presented a formal complaint to BOD's only to be ignored at the August 16, 2010 Board meeting.Tuesday, August 17, 2010, I sent the BoD my response.
Response-
8/16/10 SCSCAI Board MeetingTuesday, August 17, 20108:53 AMMr. David Steinman, PresidentSun City Summerlin Community Association Inc.Mr. Steinman, as stated in my statement at the BoD meeting yesterday, "I want to make one thing perfectly clear, I am not asking for anything more or less than what is described in Nevada Law and our governing documents. I am asking SCSCAI to rectify this situation before I replace my leaking roof due to the over abundant errant golf balls striking my property causing excessive damage to the roof tile, stucco and personal injury" SCSCAI is responsible for this problem, therefore they are the only one that can rectify this problem. Section 2 of this document is an aerial overview of the 4th fairway on Highland Falls Golf Course that makes it clear to see why this problem exists and that Mr. Winkel's Golf Staff's recommendations were not a responsible solution. Link to complete Document
Mr. Gelbman, as you pointed out, arrogance is not the solution.
Thanks for your openness,
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:41 AM, DONALD GELBMAN <drgtrustpl@cox.net> wrote:
Many of you may remember when two homeowners found it necessary to sue
the Association and won a very large award of money. In that case the
problem had been solved once and then the golf course was changed
recreating the original problem. Of course we did nothing about the
complaint until after the judgment.
Now those same homeowners have informed the Association that the problem
has once again occurred due to an alleged change in the golf course.
You would think we would have learned something about being arrogant the
firs time but we did not.
I immediately asked the Board to treat it as an emergency and offered
the complaining homeowner my assistance in arriving at a solution. No
other Director has done anything to date. Since it is an Administrative
matter, Barbara will have to step up to the plate and you would think
this Board would help her.
Don Gelbman, Director
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