Read the correspondence form Steve, I have pointed (commented in blue) several issues that I have heard discussed by many on the chat-lines. These issues show cause-ability (why things happen) in Sun City and that could rectify the direction of our community or start a recall process.
What is needed is five/ten homeowners with ideas & documented facts to contribute, I am available to do my part.
Dwain A. Kramzar
702.838.5049
Today, February 11, 2011, I received the two emails below from Ms. Lorin Martin and the Sun City BOD president Marilyn L.
I called Ms. Martin about her email that noted 5-business days advance notice was required to put MY REQUEST on the BOD agenda. I indicated to Ms. Martin that the BOD had received several of my emails well before the 5-business days. The emails pertained to the SCSCAI condoning, in my opinion, the illegal operation of a business by residents and the solicitation of funds via an email to other residents to recoup some of their expenses. It was understood during my conversation with Ms. Martin that the BOD apparently DELAYED giving Ms. Martin my emails so my request could not be on the February 15th agenda. Thank you Ms. Martin for your assistance
In regard to my above noted emails to the BOD on the suspected illegal business operation in Sun City of some residents, only an Appointed Board member, Frank Beers, responded with an incomprehensible answer. Maybe his response was superfluous because he knew exactly what I was referring to and it pertained to two of his 'friends'. No other BOD member had the courtesy to reply to any of my emails. The BOD should be aware this matter is not going away. In addition, it is my understanding from legal authorities that the BOD and, unfortunately, Sun City residents may be faced with lawsuits and significant fines in this matter.
Now a message to the BOD from one of their employer's, a Sun City Summerlin resident named Stephen Commander. Based on the BOD meeting on February 7, 2011, my opinion is that there are five inept, incompetent, ineffective and immoral current BOD members named Marilyn L., Jim F., Frank B., Ellen B., and Pat C. I have never seen such a group of pathetic 'leaders' who in front of 300 residents and Channel 8 News refused to respond to resident questions about the hiring of a new Executive Director. Yet, at that meeting these same five BOD members approved the hiring of Christine A Gibbs as our new E. D. It is my understanding that Ms. Gibbs had previously resigned from her job on January 31, 2011 because someone on the BOD informed her on January 24, 2011 that she was hired for the E.D. position. Therefore, the hiring seems to have occurred BEFORE the 'charade' of the February 7th BOD meeting.
It is so good to know that Marilyn and Frank will be ex-board members in less than two weeks and for you other three, your days are numbered.
P.S. Marilyn, is the above also "very succinct and well done"?
Let it be known that this email is being sent the same day I received the two I noted above and not two weeks after the fact.
Stephen Commander
---- levasseur07@cox.net wrote:
> Very succinct and well done. Marilyn
> ---- Lorin Martin <LorinM@SUNCITYLV.COM> wrote:
> > Dear Mr. Commander,
> >
> > I received a forwarded copy of your email below and I want to ascertain
> > that your email is responded to with information to assist you, if
> > someone hasn't provided you with this information already. [a forwarded copy was also sent to Stan Bjonerud (see the last attached correspondence)]
,
> >
> > You have quoted NRS 116.31087 appropriately but in addition, the Board
> > of Directors approved Policies and Procedures 1.3.2 on November 18, 2009
> > regarding any resident's complaint(s) so that they are handled equally.
> >
> > Below is P&P 1.3.2: (I have attached a copy also.)
> >
> > NRS116.31087 provides that if the executive board receives a written
> > complaint from a unit owner alleging that the executive board has
> > violated any provision of NRS116 or any provision of the governing
> > documents, the executive board shall upon the written request of the
> > unit owner place the subject of the complaint on the agenda of the next
> > regularly scheduled meeting of the executive board.
> >
> > A unit owner who believes that the board has violated any provision of
> > NRS116 or of the governing documents may submit a written complaint by
> > signed letter to the Executive Director by mail or by presenting it at
> > the Administrative Offices at Mountain Shadows. [at the present time the SCSCAI does not have an ED]
> >
> > The complaint should clearly state what section of law or of the
> > governing documents has allegedly been violated. If the unit owner is
> > not able to specify a specific section of law or of the governing
> > documents, the letter should state as clearly as possible what violation
> > is alleged.
> >
> > The Executive Director will acknowledge within 10 business days the
> > receipt of such a complaint and if the original letter did not request
> > that the item be placed on the agenda, the unit owner will be advised
> > that they may submit a written request that the subject of the complaint
> > be placed on the agenda of the next regularly scheduled meeting of the
> > executive board.
> >
> > When an item is placed on the agenda of a meeting of the executive board
> > the unit owner need not be present at such meeting. The board may
> > request oral input from the unit owner but is not required to do so.
> > The unit owner may decline to provide oral input. Any allegation that
> > is not indicated in the written complaint cannot be discussed at the
> > meeting. If the board requires additional information, the board will
> > request it through the Executive Director.
> >
> > The deadline for submission to the board for the next regularly
> > scheduled meeting is five (5) working days before the date of the
> > meeting. Requests received after that time will be deferred until the
> > next regularly scheduled board meeting.
> >
> > The disposition of the complaint will be determined by the Board.
> >
> > Therefore, I want to provide you the necessary guidelines so that you
> > can present your complaint in writing if you would like to be on a
> > future Agenda. Although there is not an Executive Director at this
> > time, your written letter stating your complaint and what section of the
> > law or governing documents that the Board violated, will be responded to
> > and you will be placed on the next Agenda following the date of your
> > letter. Please note the five (5) working day time frame for notice so
> > it doesn't miss any deadline to be placed on the Agenda. Additionally,
> > you do not have to be present at the Board meeting; however, the Board
> > may have other questions for you on or before the meeting that your
> > complaint is placed on the Agenda. If that is the case, I will get
> > those questions to you so that you can respond accordingly.
> >
> > This is the <<PP 1.3.2 Resident complaints passed 11-16-09.pdf
> > guideline that every resident has followed prior to their complaint
> > being placed on the Agenda so that everyone is treated equally. If you
> > have any questions regarding this format, please contact me.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Lorin Martin
> > Executive Assistant
> > Sun City Summerlin Community Association, Inc.
> > 9107 Del Webb Blvd.
> > Las Vegas, NV 89134
> > Phone: (702) 966-1408
> > Fax: (702) 363-7752
> > Email: lorinm@suncitylv.com
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains private, privileged and
> > confidential information to the sender. The information therein is
> > solely for the use of the addressee. If your receipt of this
> > transmission has occurred as the result of an error, in such
> > circumstances, you are advised that you may not disclose, copy,
> > distribute or take any other action in reliance on the information
> > transmitted. Please notify the sender immediately by email and delete
> > all copies of this email, including the attachments, without reading
> > them or saving them to your computer or any attached storage device. If
> > you are the intended recipient, you will need to secure the contents
> > conforming to all applicable state and/or federal requirements related
> > to the privacy and confidentiality of such information, including the
> > HIPPA Privacy guidelines.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sc041644@cox.net
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:51 AM
> > To: dwsteinman@cox.net ; ebachman@embarqmail.com ; bcook@suncitylv.com ;
> >
> > Frank Beers ; jim2000flynnsc@aol.com ; levasseur07@cox.net ;
> > kcaroccia@cox.net ; jpocon@cox.net ; scscullen@cox.net
> > Subject: RE: BOD February 15th Meeting - from Stephen Commander
> >
> > "SB 182 (19) provides that when the executive board receives a written
> > complaint from an owner
> > alleging that the board has violated NRS 116 or the governing documents,
> > the
> > board shall
> > acknowledge receipt of the complaint within 10 days. The board shall
> > also
> > notify the owner that
> > he or she may make a written request to place the subject of the
> > complaint
> > on the agenda of the
> > next board meeting. (NRS 116.31087) (Eff.10/1/09)"
> >
> > Based on the above, is my request being put on the agenda, YES or NO?
> >
> > Stephen Commander
> >
> > ---- Frank Beers <fbeers@cox.net> wrote:
> > > What business?
> > >
> > > Frank Beers
> > > fbeers@cox.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sc041644@cox.net [mailto:sc041644@cox.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:33 PM
> > > To: ebachman@embarqmail.com; dwsteinman@cox.net; bcook@suncitylv.com;
> > > Frank
> > > Beers; jim2000flynnsc@aol.com; levasseur07@cox.net; kcaroccia@cox.net;
> > > jpocon@cox.net; scscullen@cox.net
> > > Subject: RE: BOD February 15th Meeting - from Stephen Commander
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > I believe this is a Board issue unless it is ok with the BOD for ALL
> > > residents to do solicitations and 'run' a business under the banner of
> > the
> > > SCSCAI. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Steve Commander
> > >
> > > ---- Frank Beers <fbeers@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > Why not ask Stan instead of making a board issue out of it. [Why ask Stan]
> > > >
> > > > Frank Beers [one of the signers of the Blackmail/Extortion letter sent to BoD]
> > > > fbeers@cox.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: sc041644@cox.net [mailto:sc041644@cox.net], [this suggest that Stan Bjonerud is is involved with all correspondence to the BoD]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:42 AM
> > > > To: scscullen@cox.net; kcaroccia@cox.net; dwsteinman@cox.net;
> > > > fbeers@cox.net; jpocon@cox.net; bcook@suncitylv.com;
> > > > levasseur07@cox.net;
> > > > ebachman@embarqmail.com; jim2000flynnsc@aol.com
> > > > Subject: BOD February 15th Meeting - from Stephen Commander
> > > >
> > > > BOD
The following email was received by me and many other residents of Sun City. Previous emails on this same subject has also been sent to numerous
> > > > residents. It appears to us that solicitation and 'running' of a business is
> > > > been done within the SCSCAI. We believe this is against our rules.
> > > > Therefore, I herein request this matter be placed on the agenda for the
> > > > February 15th BOD meeting. Kindly advise asap about this request.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you. Stephen Commander
> > > >
> > > > From: "Stan" <sbj4@cox.net>
> > > > To: "Stan Bjonerud" <sbj4@cox.net> [involved with the Blackmail/Extortion letter sent to BoD]
> > > > Subject: Concerned citizens [non registered political party]
> > > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:20:51 -0800
> > > >
> > > > Good news and bad news on our Hamburger and Politics event.
> > > >
> > > > Due to an inadvertent mix-up with the printer, as I was away on a
> > > > cruise, [what an excuse]
> > >
> > > > the Concerned Citizens printed about 1,000 too many Flyers mailed to [$500.00 cost][NO ACCOUNTABILITY/FOLLOW THE MONEY][non registered political party]
> > > > non-Nevada residents and some selected homeowners for this year's
> > > > election campaign. [the Mail list had to come from SCSCAI files, this involves the BoD & Management]
> > > >
> > > > Good news - we mailed a total of 3,250 Flyers.[use of US Mail @ $1320.00by a non registered political party]
> > > > Bad news - we are short about $500 in the Concerned Citizens
> > > > account.
> > > >
> > > > Any contributions will be gratefully accepted. Make checks to
> > > > Concerned Citizens and mail to: [use of US Mail and brings up the question of compliance of Election rules by a non registered political party]
> > > >
> > > > Stan Bjonerud,
> > > > 10433 Button Willow,
> > > > LV, NV 89134.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks, Stan
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > **************************************************************************************
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:This e-mail contains private, privileged [this notice suggest Stan believes that he is covering his ass, NOTE: this Confidentiality Notice has be copyed from the SCSCAI emails]
> > and confidential information belonging to the sender. The information
> > therein is solely for the use of the addressee. If your receipt of this
> > transmission has occurred as the result of an error, in such
> > circumstances, you are advised that you may not disclose, copy,
> > distribute or take any other action in reliance on the information
> > transmitted.
> > **************************************************************************************
> >
I called Ms. Martin about her email that noted 5-business days advance notice was required to put MY REQUEST on the BOD agenda. I indicated to Ms. Martin that the BOD had received several of my emails well before the 5-business days. The emails pertained to the SCSCAI condoning, in my opinion, the illegal operation of a business by residents and the solicitation of funds via an email to other residents to recoup some of their expenses. It was understood during my conversation with Ms. Martin that the BOD apparently DELAYED giving Ms. Martin my emails so my request could not be on the February 15th agenda. Thank you Ms. Martin for your assistance
In regard to my above noted emails to the BOD on the suspected illegal business operation in Sun City of some residents, only an Appointed Board member, Frank Beers, responded with an incomprehensible answer. Maybe his response was superfluous because he knew exactly what I was referring to and it pertained to two of his 'friends'. No other BOD member had the courtesy to reply to any of my emails. The BOD should be aware this matter is not going away. In addition, it is my understanding from legal authorities that the BOD and, unfortunately, Sun City residents may be faced with lawsuits and significant fines in this matter.
Now a message to the BOD from one of their employer's, a Sun City Summerlin resident named Stephen Commander. Based on the BOD meeting on February 7, 2011, my opinion is that there are five inept, incompetent, ineffective and immoral current BOD members named Marilyn L., Jim F., Frank B., Ellen B., and Pat C. I have never seen such a group of pathetic 'leaders' who in front of 300 residents and Channel 8 News refused to respond to resident questions about the hiring of a new Executive Director. Yet, at that meeting these same five BOD members approved the hiring of Christine A Gibbs as our new E. D. It is my understanding that Ms. Gibbs had previously resigned from her job on January 31, 2011 because someone on the BOD informed her on January 24, 2011 that she was hired for the E.D. position. Therefore, the hiring seems to have occurred BEFORE the 'charade' of the February 7th BOD meeting.
It is so good to know that Marilyn and Frank will be ex-board members in less than two weeks and for you other three, your days are numbered.
P.S. Marilyn, is the above also "very succinct and well done"?
Let it be known that this email is being sent the same day I received the two I noted above and not two weeks after the fact.
Stephen Commander
---- levasseur07@cox.net wrote:
> Very succinct and well done. Marilyn
> ---- Lorin Martin <LorinM@SUNCITYLV.COM> wrote:
> > Dear Mr. Commander,
> >
> > I received a forwarded copy of your email below and I want to ascertain
> > that your email is responded to with information to assist you, if
> > someone hasn't provided you with this information already. [a forwarded copy was also sent to Stan Bjonerud (see the last attached correspondence)]
,
> >
> > You have quoted NRS 116.31087 appropriately but in addition, the Board
> > of Directors approved Policies and Procedures 1.3.2 on November 18, 2009
> > regarding any resident's complaint(s) so that they are handled equally.
> >
> > Below is P&P 1.3.2: (I have attached a copy also.)
> >
> > NRS116.31087 provides that if the executive board receives a written
> > complaint from a unit owner alleging that the executive board has
> > violated any provision of NRS116 or any provision of the governing
> > documents, the executive board shall upon the written request of the
> > unit owner place the subject of the complaint on the agenda of the next
> > regularly scheduled meeting of the executive board.
> >
> > A unit owner who believes that the board has violated any provision of
> > NRS116 or of the governing documents may submit a written complaint by
> > signed letter to the Executive Director by mail or by presenting it at
> > the Administrative Offices at Mountain Shadows. [at the present time the SCSCAI does not have an ED]
> >
> > The complaint should clearly state what section of law or of the
> > governing documents has allegedly been violated. If the unit owner is
> > not able to specify a specific section of law or of the governing
> > documents, the letter should state as clearly as possible what violation
> > is alleged.
> >
> > The Executive Director will acknowledge within 10 business days the
> > receipt of such a complaint and if the original letter did not request
> > that the item be placed on the agenda, the unit owner will be advised
> > that they may submit a written request that the subject of the complaint
> > be placed on the agenda of the next regularly scheduled meeting of the
> > executive board.
> >
> > When an item is placed on the agenda of a meeting of the executive board
> > the unit owner need not be present at such meeting. The board may
> > request oral input from the unit owner but is not required to do so.
> > The unit owner may decline to provide oral input. Any allegation that
> > is not indicated in the written complaint cannot be discussed at the
> > meeting. If the board requires additional information, the board will
> > request it through the Executive Director.
> >
> > The deadline for submission to the board for the next regularly
> > scheduled meeting is five (5) working days before the date of the
> > meeting. Requests received after that time will be deferred until the
> > next regularly scheduled board meeting.
> >
> > The disposition of the complaint will be determined by the Board.
> >
> > Therefore, I want to provide you the necessary guidelines so that you
> > can present your complaint in writing if you would like to be on a
> > future Agenda. Although there is not an Executive Director at this
> > time, your written letter stating your complaint and what section of the
> > law or governing documents that the Board violated, will be responded to
> > and you will be placed on the next Agenda following the date of your
> > letter. Please note the five (5) working day time frame for notice so
> > it doesn't miss any deadline to be placed on the Agenda. Additionally,
> > you do not have to be present at the Board meeting; however, the Board
> > may have other questions for you on or before the meeting that your
> > complaint is placed on the Agenda. If that is the case, I will get
> > those questions to you so that you can respond accordingly.
> >
> > This is the <<PP 1.3.2 Resident complaints passed 11-16-09.pdf
> > guideline that every resident has followed prior to their complaint
> > being placed on the Agenda so that everyone is treated equally. If you
> > have any questions regarding this format, please contact me.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Lorin Martin
> > Executive Assistant
> > Sun City Summerlin Community Association, Inc.
> > 9107 Del Webb Blvd.
> > Las Vegas, NV 89134
> > Phone: (702) 966-1408
> > Fax: (702) 363-7752
> > Email: lorinm@suncitylv.com
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains private, privileged and
> > confidential information to the sender. The information therein is
> > solely for the use of the addressee. If your receipt of this
> > transmission has occurred as the result of an error, in such
> > circumstances, you are advised that you may not disclose, copy,
> > distribute or take any other action in reliance on the information
> > transmitted. Please notify the sender immediately by email and delete
> > all copies of this email, including the attachments, without reading
> > them or saving them to your computer or any attached storage device. If
> > you are the intended recipient, you will need to secure the contents
> > conforming to all applicable state and/or federal requirements related
> > to the privacy and confidentiality of such information, including the
> > HIPPA Privacy guidelines.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sc041644@cox.net
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:51 AM
> > To: dwsteinman@cox.net ; ebachman@embarqmail.com ; bcook@suncitylv.com ;
> >
> > Frank Beers ; jim2000flynnsc@aol.com ; levasseur07@cox.net ;
> > kcaroccia@cox.net ; jpocon@cox.net ; scscullen@cox.net
> > Subject: RE: BOD February 15th Meeting - from Stephen Commander
> >
> > "SB 182 (19) provides that when the executive board receives a written
> > complaint from an owner
> > alleging that the board has violated NRS 116 or the governing documents,
> > the
> > board shall
> > acknowledge receipt of the complaint within 10 days. The board shall
> > also
> > notify the owner that
> > he or she may make a written request to place the subject of the
> > complaint
> > on the agenda of the
> > next board meeting. (NRS 116.31087) (Eff.10/1/09)"
> >
> > Based on the above, is my request being put on the agenda, YES or NO?
> >
> > Stephen Commander
> >
> > ---- Frank Beers <fbeers@cox.net> wrote:
> > > What business?
> > >
> > > Frank Beers
> > > fbeers@cox.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sc041644@cox.net [mailto:sc041644@cox.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:33 PM
> > > To: ebachman@embarqmail.com; dwsteinman@cox.net; bcook@suncitylv.com;
> > > Frank
> > > Beers; jim2000flynnsc@aol.com; levasseur07@cox.net; kcaroccia@cox.net;
> > > jpocon@cox.net; scscullen@cox.net
> > > Subject: RE: BOD February 15th Meeting - from Stephen Commander
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > I believe this is a Board issue unless it is ok with the BOD for ALL
> > > residents to do solicitations and 'run' a business under the banner of
> > the
> > > SCSCAI. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Steve Commander
> > >
> > > ---- Frank Beers <fbeers@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > Why not ask Stan instead of making a board issue out of it. [Why ask Stan]
> > > >
> > > > Frank Beers [one of the signers of the Blackmail/Extortion letter sent to BoD]
> > > > fbeers@cox.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: sc041644@cox.net [mailto:sc041644@cox.net], [this suggest that Stan Bjonerud is is involved with all correspondence to the BoD]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:42 AM
> > > > To: scscullen@cox.net; kcaroccia@cox.net; dwsteinman@cox.net;
> > > > fbeers@cox.net; jpocon@cox.net; bcook@suncitylv.com;
> > > > levasseur07@cox.net;
> > > > ebachman@embarqmail.com; jim2000flynnsc@aol.com
> > > > Subject: BOD February 15th Meeting - from Stephen Commander
> > > >
> > > > BOD
The following email was received by me and many other residents of Sun City. Previous emails on this same subject has also been sent to numerous
> > > > residents. It appears to us that solicitation and 'running' of a business is
> > > > been done within the SCSCAI. We believe this is against our rules.
> > > > Therefore, I herein request this matter be placed on the agenda for the
> > > > February 15th BOD meeting. Kindly advise asap about this request.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you. Stephen Commander
> > > >
> > > > From: "Stan" <sbj4@cox.net>
> > > > To: "Stan Bjonerud" <sbj4@cox.net> [involved with the Blackmail/Extortion letter sent to BoD]
> > > > Subject: Concerned citizens [non registered political party]
> > > > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:20:51 -0800
> > > >
> > > > Good news and bad news on our Hamburger and Politics event.
> > > >
> > > > Due to an inadvertent mix-up with the printer, as I was away on a
> > > > cruise, [what an excuse]
> > >
> > > > the Concerned Citizens printed about 1,000 too many Flyers mailed to [$500.00 cost][NO ACCOUNTABILITY/FOLLOW THE MONEY][non registered political party]
> > > > non-Nevada residents and some selected homeowners for this year's
> > > > election campaign. [the Mail list had to come from SCSCAI files, this involves the BoD & Management]
> > > >
> > > > Good news - we mailed a total of 3,250 Flyers.[use of US Mail @ $1320.00by a non registered political party]
> > > > Bad news - we are short about $500 in the Concerned Citizens
> > > > account.
> > > >
> > > > Any contributions will be gratefully accepted. Make checks to
> > > > Concerned Citizens and mail to: [use of US Mail and brings up the question of compliance of Election rules by a non registered political party]
> > > >
> > > > Stan Bjonerud,
> > > > 10433 Button Willow,
> > > > LV, NV 89134.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks, Stan
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > **************************************************************************************
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:This e-mail contains private, privileged [this notice suggest Stan believes that he is covering his ass, NOTE: this Confidentiality Notice has be copyed from the SCSCAI emails]
> > and confidential information belonging to the sender. The information
> > therein is solely for the use of the addressee. If your receipt of this
> > transmission has occurred as the result of an error, in such
> > circumstances, you are advised that you may not disclose, copy,
> > distribute or take any other action in reliance on the information
> > transmitted.
> > **************************************************************************************
> >
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