Friday, January 16, 2009

RE: STAN BJONERUD IN SUN CITY SUMMERLIN

 
Don G:
You're observation of the Meet the Candidates & the Concerned Residents meetings is correct.  The group of Stan & Shelia followers acted like a flock of Lemmings'. I was surprised at the relative small number of attendees and their inability to think for themselves.
 
  • It is apparent to me that the Candidates with past board & committee experience are happy with the status quo; The BoD is in denial & is detached from the rest of the community.
  • NO BUSINESS PLAN with goals & P&L statement.
  • NO ACCOUNTABILITY for the homeowner/shareholders assets.
  • Refuse release of Attorney Opinions' that backup their questionable decisions.
  •  Dealing with community problems without using a Common Sense approach.
   
Without a CHANGE of attitude of our leadership in Sun City we will continue having greater losses, higher dues & less services.
 
Dwain Kramzar
702.838.5049
 
Bernie S:
We have completed two of the three Meet the Candidates meetings.  They
have been unexciting with the Concerned Residents in complete control.
It would be nice if Saturday's meeting were less like a Board meeting
to waste my time.
 
My conclusion is that, whether we like it or not, the best we, those who
think something strange goes on around here, will have no ability to
make a change.  If I am elected we will make a difference.  If we end up
with 6-3 or 7-2 the Board will continue on a destructive path.  If we
end up with 8-1 we will need outside help which we will get. Don Gelbman p.s.  In the first two meetings the audience made it pretty obvious that
they prefer pandering rather than debate.  Wouldn't it be nice if a few
who realize that our Board is not doing the job in the way it must be
done were to speak up.  After all, if they are not willing to support
Robey they deserve what they get.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bernard Silver wrote:
> *Re: ALLAN  BELL  VS  STAN  BJONERUD IN SUN CITY SUMMERLIN*
> **
and more like an honest debate.  I won't hold my breath but am willing
> **
> *Quwartha.*
> **
> *In my opinion Stan Bjonerud and his very close supporter, Sheila
> McCanna, have captured the means of communicating with the few who do
> not pay attention to what is happening in our Sun City Summerlin by
> attending Board Meetings. In my opinion they have succeeded in doing
> this via the Sheila McCanna periodic News Letters that she sends out via
> E mail to present what she deems is appropriate for our Sun City. In
> doing so, she rarely misses the opportunity to let readers know that she
> is in the Real Estate Business.   Additionally, via their association
> with the Residents Forum and the so called Concerned Citizens group,
> they extend their philosophy to to those who do not attend Board
> Meetings with their perspective of the performance of our Sun City
> Summerlin. Going even further, they raise funds to send out mailings to
> those that we affectionately refer to as "snow birds"; many who
> undoubtedly believe that they are obtaining the straight scoop from
> these two promoters.*
> **
> *Well, be advised that I have no real estate for sale, I'm not seeking
> real estate listings, not a candidate for the Board of Directors and I'm
> not an accountant. However, from evaluating the Sun City published
> Monthly Financial Reports submitted to the members of the Board it is
> blatantly clear that the losses from the golf plus the food and beverage
> operations this fiscal year will exceed $2,300,000 bringing the total
> accumulated losses to well over $12,000,000.*
> **
> *Now if one considers that three of the current candidates have thrown
> their hats into the ring for re election for another two year term, and
> they have done absolutely nothing to rein in the losses then I suspect
> the FACTS have not been clear to the 7,781 voters.  Why would anyone
> after being given the facts desire to re elect Allan Baer, Ken Caroccia,
> and Marilyn Lavasseur if they knew the fact that the losses for this s
> fiscal year will be greater than 32% of the prior year losses and they
> haven't developed a BUSINESS PLAN.  To the contrary, they voted to
> reward the Business Manager for his performance.  We now have over 50%
> of the golf rounds played by non Sun City members.*
> **
> *Think about it.  The only chance we have is if the Southern Nevada
> Water Authority decides to increase the cost of water to a point where
> we will lose even greater amounts of money on the three severely under
> utilized golf courses in Sun City.  Could we avoid that with better
> management?  I believe that Dean Johlfs has clearly pointed out several
> intriguing aspects for getting more revenue that have been ignored.  WE
> NEED CHANGE.*
> **
> *Bernard Silver*

Quwatha Valentine <quwatha@cox.net>
wrote:
Allan Bell did not embarass himself in my mind. I think
it is Stan who is embarassing himself.
Quwatha Valentine
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: [SC-SCOOP] ALLAN BELL VS STAN BJONERUD IN SUN CITY SUMMERLIN

Stan Bjonerud is the only one that continues to
further embarrass himself.

Subject: ALLAN BELL VS STAN BJONERUD IN SUN CITY SUMMERLIN

Dear readers.
 
During the last two days, Allan Bell a Board candidate last year, who was kiboshed by our local real estate salesperson Sheila McCanna wrote about how he had continued his efforts to help our community but failed.
Stan Bjonerud, the Sun City apparant spokesperson for the Board responded and you should carefully evaluate the difference in their postings.
 
                                ********************
 
Allan Bell wrote:
 
Last year I decided to run for the board because I felt the golf
losses could be reduced substantially with proper controls. Even
after I lost in the election i continued to work towards this goal. I
was part of a committee that met to suggest savings possibilities to
the director of golf. We met with Kelly three times offering some
suggestions to reduce our losses and the end result was that he
decided he wouldn't even try any of our suggestions. and now the
board has chosen to give him a golden parachute as a reward for his
refusal to consider any ideas other than his own.

At our meeting he admitted the marshall program costs us
approximately $100, 000 a year and the only true benefit is that they
ride around and deliver water in the summer. This could have been
done by a maintenance person at far less cost. We also have
suggested that residents be charged a nominal fee if they use a
community golf cart instead of their own. That was rebuffed as well.
We suggested that we explore the possibility of using some landscape
staff in the early AM to cut the courses and get off very early and
then lend some staff to landscape in the afternoons to complete their
work. we recommended that purchasing be done for the pro shops by
someone with buying experience to obtain better pricing and lower
resale prices. This too was ignored. In short we presented Mr Kelly
seven or eight ideas to reduce losses and he ignored them all. Is
this really the kind of person we want to give golden parachutes too?
In my opinion Kelly has helped us in getting more outside play but
has now outlived his usefulness and the board should have let him
take his job offer and departed.

Allan Bell
Now according to Stan Bjonerud, either he, or Allan Bell, has a completely different understanding of the outcome from this Bjonerud appointed committee of six.   Here is what Bjonerud (one of the Sun City Summerlin Board behind the scenes political controllers ) wrote:
 
Phil and Barbara: - I hope you are listening for  here is the rest of the story.
 
Allan Bell contacted me many months after he unsuccessfully ran for the Board in 2008 ago asking if I would assist him in presenting his golf ideas to the Board. He had written to the Board but they had ignored him. I organized a committee of six of us “ several board members along with several  golfers or those knowledgeable of our golf courses and the financial condition of them. I then met with Joe Kelly several times before the entire committee met with him. Kelly was open to the suggestions advanced by the committee members and carefully and patiently explained why several were not particle here or physically just would not work . Actually several of the ideas were accepted and I believe adopted by Joe Kelly. I have the minutes to these meetings should anyone be interested on a private basis.
 
Allan Bell spent considerable time talking with Joe Kelly about  his suggestions and they  were more than adequately and  politely answered. Allan Bells posting which you appended is a rehash of his original thoughts which as stated above were given a fair hearing. I think Bells conclusion that Kelly has outlived his usefulness is unconscionable and detrimental to our community management. Further, I deem it to be slanderous to one of our outstanding employees. We are fortunate to have such a fine and experienced golf manager and we should all respect this.
 
I dont think this matter needs to be discussed any further on this chat line unless Allan Bell wishes to further embarrass himself.
 
Stan Bjonerud 
                                         *************************************
 
Now fellow Sun City Summerlin Association members who have already had to pay for about $12,000,000 of Golf and the associated Food & Beverage losses ($1,542 per unit) here we have Mr. Bell informing us that he wrote a letter to the current Board and was ignored.  He then became a member of a Bjonerud created committee and as such made suggestions to Kelly, who basically ignored them.
Bjonerud states that several were accepted and he believes adopted by Kelly.
 
Well fellow members, the FACT is that each month I have been compiling financial data from the Association published reports and it is clear that there has not been any improvement in the rate of losses from the two businesses that Kelly is responsible for.
 
At a recent Board Meeting, a motion to award Kelly a "Golden Parachute" to accomplish 'employee retention' which appeared to have originated at the Executive Director's Office was discussed very briefly and approved.
You should note that several prior Directors expressed their chagrin and one even asked the President Richard Post "Why would we do this if Kelly was performing his job in an acceptable manner?"
The Answer that Post Provided was to the effect that a future Board may decide to replace Kelly.  In other words, this Board blatantly intended to usurp the powers of a future Board.
 
Frankly, this indicates to me that those on the current Board who have and are still contributing to the increasing losses should be replaced and while they cannot all be replaced simultaneously we should at least replace Allan Baer, Ken Caroccia, and MariIyn Lavasseur during the upcoming election for Directors.
If we do not do this now, it is in my opinion a foregone conclusion that the new Budget for the FY 2010 which will be worked upon within the next month or so will include Budgeted losses even greater than last year.
 
Non of the happy talk from Bjonerud, McCanna, and their supporters can change the FACTS.  Our losses from these business operations are growing rapidly and we have been rewarding those involved for lack of performance.
 


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