Friday, April 15, 2011

Re: Fw: [SCBuzz] Re:AT MEET THE DIRECTORS EVENT 4/13/2011


Al Jacobs,
This and previous Boards and Management (ED) refused to implement a standard 101 Business Plan that includes a P&L statement. Is it possible that a P&L would hold the Board & Management accountable for the millions in losses? What Professional Golf Management Company would get involved with the past history of our SCS politics? Until the Board & Management are held accountable, there is no hope of any change of direction, just more losses of time and money. 

What a poor excuse of a retirement Lifestyle!


Dwain A. Kramzar
702.838.5049    

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Albert Jacobs <maralb25@cox.net> wrote:
 
Note:  Please read the last paragraph.  Is a Golf Management Company worth considering?  Has this been looked into by the board? If not, maybe it should be done now!      Al Jacobs
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Subject: Re: [SCBuzz] Re:AT MEET THE DIRECTORS EVENT 4/13/2011

 
Mr. Passmonick,
I acknowledge your many years of experience with CIC communities and your contributions to our community.  Thank you for your service.  However, with all due respect....our ' unneeded and uncontrolled losses' is not relevant in such negotiations.  A Golf Management Company is not interested in past performance.  If such was profitable we wouldn't seek outside help.  What is relevant is the 'potential' income stream from the golf properties, the condition of the courses and course location to name just a few considerations. 
To the best of my knowledge, we are the only Del Webb community in Clark County that manages it's golf courses.  All others are managed by an outside agency. Aliante, Anthem, MacDonald Ranch... all managed by a Golf Management Company, not the Association.  And of course... though not Del Webb properties, Sienna, Angel Park, Las Vegas National....etc, etc,  all managed for their owners by a Golf Management Company.
Am I correct?
Heck.... we might even have to throw some bucks in the pot to have someone 'save' us from ourselves but that would be a lot cheaper than the losses you repeatedly report....
Crosswhite

 
Crosswhite - How can anyone on the Board have the answer when they have proven they have little to no idea how to run and operate SCSCAI.  Contracts with golf Management companies vary based on the needs of both, the HOA and the golf Management company.   Also a good bargainer can obtain much if in a position of
strength,  rather then in a negative position.   Where would you think SCSCAI stands in a bargaining position, with millions in uneeded and uncontrolled losses, and with one course lucky to have only near 2% of SCSCAI stepping on the course?

                                                                   Bob  Passmonick

In a message dated 4/14/2011 4:27:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, suncityjanedwards@gmail.com write   I may be wrong but as I understand it.... the Golf Management Company takes over complete management of the course including all maintenance costs.  We pay nothing.  In exchange, they get a substantial portion of all Green fees. (Shucks.... maybe all of it, I'm not sure.)  Someone on our Board must have that answer... I'm told it has been explored before?


 


Crosswhite


 




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